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Question(s) for the Religious
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RE: Question(s) for the Religious
(August 9, 2013 at 3:54 pm)Godschild Wrote: God doesn't threaten you,

BWS Wrote:Philippians 2:12, 'Work out your salvation with fear and trembling'
From: ESV translation.
Philippians 2:12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, (13 for it is God who works in you, both to will and work for His good pleasure.

See the word I put in bold, do you know what that means in context to the passage.
The verse is not a threat, I do not know why you think so, the word fear is often used as, respect for God. This verse is about Paul not being with the Philippians to help guide them and they need to work hard at keeping up the good work they were doing and to be prepared for God to work through them.

Quote:Combining 2 Timothy 3:16-17 and Hebrews 12:1-12, we see that God does rebuke, correct, train, teach, punish, and discipline.

Doesn't any good parent do those things.


BWS Wrote:But this one is my favorite:

Matthew 26:52-54 ESV

'Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword. Do you think that I cannot appeal to my Father, and he will at once send me more than twelve legions of angels? But how then should the Scriptures be fulfilled, that it must be so?”'

You got to be kidding, right, how do you get torture from Christ's warning to Peter that violence brings on violence. Christ was probably disappointed Peter forgot His teaching of turn the other cheek.

GC Wrote:nor does He torture you,

BWS Wrote:Hell is eternal torture. To reject Christ is to submit to this torture. Constantly having the fear of hell on your mind is torture for your entire life.

BTW, Revelations is an entire book about torture at the hands of God.

Show me where the Bible mentions the word torture, you are applying an interpretation to scripture that's incorrect on every level. I do not have hell on my mind all the time nor do I worry about it.

GC Wrote:you are born to the destination of hell, just as everyone else is. God does offer a way to change that destination, the offer is to all, and those who accept it will have their destination changed.

BWS Wrote:Your god is an asshole since all those without a chance to hear his words are doomed. He is, therefore, torturing them for no good reason. Babies are all doomed, for they weren't old enough to accept him.

No they are not, they will be judged by a standard God has set for such people and babies do not know evil so they are not doomed either.

Smile GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Question(s) for the Religious - by Walking Void - August 8, 2013 at 8:14 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Godschild - August 8, 2013 at 11:01 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Captain Colostomy - August 8, 2013 at 11:04 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by fr0d0 - August 9, 2013 at 2:35 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by fr0d0 - August 9, 2013 at 10:31 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Bad Writer - August 9, 2013 at 10:38 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by fr0d0 - August 9, 2013 at 11:33 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Chas - August 9, 2013 at 11:39 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Bad Writer - August 9, 2013 at 12:18 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Cyberman - August 9, 2013 at 7:40 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by fr0d0 - August 9, 2013 at 11:21 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Cyberman - August 9, 2013 at 11:41 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Walking Void - August 9, 2013 at 9:12 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by John V - August 9, 2013 at 9:38 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Bad Writer - August 9, 2013 at 10:28 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by John V - August 9, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Bad Writer - August 9, 2013 at 4:44 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by fr0d0 - August 9, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by John V - August 10, 2013 at 6:30 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Cyberman - August 10, 2013 at 6:50 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by John V - August 10, 2013 at 7:16 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Esquilax - August 9, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Godschild - August 9, 2013 at 2:38 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Walking Void - August 9, 2013 at 11:21 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by fr0d0 - August 9, 2013 at 11:45 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Chas - August 9, 2013 at 11:58 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by fr0d0 - August 9, 2013 at 12:34 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Cyberman - August 9, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Cyberman - August 9, 2013 at 12:14 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by fr0d0 - August 9, 2013 at 12:45 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Chas - August 9, 2013 at 1:08 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Cyberman - August 9, 2013 at 1:37 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Bad Writer - August 9, 2013 at 12:38 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by fr0d0 - August 9, 2013 at 1:15 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Chas - August 9, 2013 at 1:47 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Bad Writer - August 9, 2013 at 1:24 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by fr0d0 - August 9, 2013 at 2:00 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Chas - August 9, 2013 at 2:04 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by fr0d0 - August 9, 2013 at 2:14 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Chas - August 9, 2013 at 2:16 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by fr0d0 - August 9, 2013 at 3:30 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Chas - August 9, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Chas - August 9, 2013 at 2:14 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Bad Writer - August 9, 2013 at 2:31 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Bad Writer - August 9, 2013 at 2:39 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Bad Writer - August 9, 2013 at 2:57 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by CleanShavenJesus - August 9, 2013 at 3:02 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Godschild - August 9, 2013 at 3:26 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Bad Writer - August 9, 2013 at 3:30 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Godschild - August 9, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Bad Writer - August 9, 2013 at 4:14 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Godschild - August 9, 2013 at 4:02 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by CleanShavenJesus - August 10, 2013 at 11:14 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Godschild - August 9, 2013 at 3:08 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Bad Writer - August 9, 2013 at 3:09 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Cyberman - August 9, 2013 at 3:13 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Godschild - August 9, 2013 at 3:54 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Bad Writer - August 9, 2013 at 4:09 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Godschild - August 9, 2013 at 8:46 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Cyberman - August 9, 2013 at 3:15 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Cyberman - August 9, 2013 at 3:57 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Godschild - August 9, 2013 at 4:11 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by fr0d0 - August 9, 2013 at 4:11 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Chas - August 9, 2013 at 4:13 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by fr0d0 - August 9, 2013 at 4:18 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Chas - August 9, 2013 at 4:34 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by fr0d0 - August 9, 2013 at 4:42 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Chas - August 9, 2013 at 5:03 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Bad Writer - August 9, 2013 at 5:02 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Bad Writer - August 9, 2013 at 5:03 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by fr0d0 - August 9, 2013 at 5:40 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Chas - August 9, 2013 at 6:00 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Walking Void - August 9, 2013 at 8:07 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Cyberman - August 10, 2013 at 8:14 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by John V - August 10, 2013 at 8:42 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Cyberman - August 10, 2013 at 8:54 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by John V - August 10, 2013 at 9:37 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Bad Writer - August 10, 2013 at 11:33 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by John V - August 10, 2013 at 12:39 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Cyberman - August 10, 2013 at 9:41 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by John V - August 10, 2013 at 9:57 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Cyberman - August 10, 2013 at 10:10 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by John V - August 10, 2013 at 10:24 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by fr0d0 - August 10, 2013 at 10:13 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Cyberman - August 10, 2013 at 11:25 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Cyberman - August 10, 2013 at 10:19 am
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Faith No More - August 10, 2013 at 12:35 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Bad Writer - August 10, 2013 at 12:42 pm
RE: Question(s) for the Religious - by Cyberman - August 10, 2013 at 12:45 pm

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