No verifiable evidence is the Christian position

[Fidel_Castronaut]

even if we deny that there is any evidence for a deity, at least verifiable evidence (the only form that matters to the question at hand), then we have to contradict accounts in numerous holy literature that claims directly that its deity had a physical (and thus verifiable) impact on the temporal realm.

A burning bush, sending your son (yourself?) down to earth, turning water into wine, people who live for hundreds of years and so on.

Physical results from physical impacts. These should be measurable, unless we start claiming special pleading. But them the argument falls due to its fallacious underpinnings.

Nah you got it all wrong Fid

Not one of those things, although actual (if you're happy to accept that) physical interactions with reality, leave no trace of the supernatural. The can all be explained naturally, which is why, even seeing those things with their own eyes, just the same as you see miracles with _your_ own eyes, people still didn't all believe that their wasn't a naturalistic explanation.

Nothing is measurable, so your claims stay intact. There is no verifiable physical evidence of God.

I'd like to thank you personally for your supportive post.

Thanks!

So you're saying that even supposedly supernatural occurances are indistinguishable from non-supernatural occruances?

Well doesn't that just mean that Occam's razor eliminates the requirement for anyone to view them as anything other than natural, non supernaturally inspired occurances in the first place?

So really, me not seeing 'miracles' as miracles is entirely logical, even by your own logic (if the above holds true).