Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: June 24, 2025, 2:29 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
No verifiable evidence is the Christian position
#71
RE: No verifiable evidence is the Christian position
(August 12, 2013 at 1:37 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Esq

It is the true answer if it's the only logical one.

Not if you're feeding in false premises, like... say, the existence of the supernatural. See, that's the thing: it's entirely possible your basal assumptions are just wrong, and thus whatever you're saying is logical would be anything but.

Quote:How many scientists replicating an answer does it take to declare a theory? Two?

The numbers aren't what makes a theory a theory. Sure, if something is good science it'll earn its consensus among scientists, but the key to that is that it is replicatable, testable and falsifiable, things your religious claims just aren't.

Quote:How many religious people replicating an answer does it take to declare a theory? There cannot be enough apparently.

By replicating, do you perhaps mean asserting? You've already stated that the evidence you have isn't verifiable; you don't get to pretend that the claims you make just 'cause you wanna are in the same ballpark as actual, verified and verifiable science.

Quote:I produce the bible as evidence. So according to you, "I have reason to be convinced"

The bible isn't evidence. The bible is your claim.

Quote:Circular reasoning, yes. You demand that unlike in the real world, you must have physical evidence of something that isn't physical.

We can only perceive the physical world; since you can't detect the non physical, you cannot possibly have a basis for believing that it exists. Are you getting this?

Quote:Do you see the circle? In denying the truth, you are able to support your assertion that this particular non physical thing cannot be logical.

Logical arguments are based on premises, and premises need to be demonstrated to be true. You agree with this and utilize it in every other aspect of your life, but because you have a presupposition that you really want to be true here, you let it slide. It's so terribly obvious; your position should leave you open to accepting every unevidenced claim, so long as it makes some kind of sense, but you don't. You just believe the one you've already decided was true before you started looking to see if it conformed with reality.

Quote:You insist that we must have evidence of this thing that cannot, by its nature, be evidenced. Again, circular reasoning.

No, my point, and the point of everyone else here that you've ignored, is that if something cannot be evidenced, then it also cannot be believable.

Quote:Wake up and smell the mustard Esq. It smells of shit, because you're full of it.

Please, tell me more about the things you believe that you admit don't have any evidence. That'll certainly distance you from looking like you're full of shit.
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee

Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects!
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: No verifiable evidence is the Christian position - by Esquilax - August 12, 2013 at 2:12 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian? KUSA 371 114043 May 3, 2020 at 1:04 am
Last Post: Paleophyte
  Can someone show me the evidence of the bullshit bible articles? I believe in Harry Potter 36 7003 November 3, 2019 at 7:33 pm
Last Post: Jehanne
  If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary? Silver 181 49169 November 11, 2017 at 10:11 pm
Last Post: Cyberman
  Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman ErGingerbreadMandude 240 38589 November 10, 2017 at 3:11 pm
Last Post: Cyberman
Question Why do you people say there is no evidence,when you can't be bothered to look for it? Jaguar 74 25323 November 5, 2017 at 7:17 pm
Last Post: Pat Mustard
  Personal evidence Silver 19 7386 November 4, 2017 at 12:27 pm
Last Post: c152
  Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading? SteveII 768 296920 September 28, 2017 at 10:42 pm
Last Post: Kernel Sohcahtoa
  Do Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence? SteveII 643 171384 August 12, 2017 at 1:36 am
Last Post: vorlon13
  Evidence: The Gathering Randy Carson 530 120362 September 25, 2015 at 5:14 pm
Last Post: abaris
  With Science and Archaeology and Miracle's evidence for God TheThinkingCatholic 35 13543 September 20, 2015 at 11:32 am
Last Post: Fidel_Castronaut



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)