(August 14, 2013 at 8:18 pm)FallentoReason Wrote:(August 14, 2013 at 3:38 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I'm saying miracles have to be ambiguous or they would disprove God.
Natural processes are anything but ambiguous. Does this mean God is now disproved, or will you be forced to go back to the traditional view of miracles
On a similar topic, how is it that the supernatural acts exclusively naturally? Causal relations would tell me that *somewhere* the supernatural action turned natural. Care to give an account of this phenomenon?
I almost can't believe you're serious. Almost
Supernatural phenomenon always appear to be natural, unless you can suggest how they couldn't be. Like you correctly said, we'd have to discover the water into wine trick.
God is continually fine tuning. To us stuff just happens. On it's own.
We can't /know it's supernatural, that's down to interpretation. To me, everything is moulded by God. Not that I need to take anything at all from nature and science. Those are sacrosanct. I just have a perspective of God's will/ God interacting.
The supernatural never acts naturally. That's not what I'm saying. Supernatural events occur and have to be indistinguishable from natural events, or they couldn't be supernatural. If we can see a process outside nature, that process becomes nature.
