(June 10, 2013 at 10:00 pm)FallentoReason Wrote:(June 10, 2013 at 9:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: No you will not be tortured in hell, so you're wrong on that point, but yes hell will be your chosen eternal destination.
You are correct to say, Jesus took on your sins, yet they are not forgiven until you accept Christ as your Savior and Lord, no one's sin is forgiven until they accept Christ for who He is and what He did for them. There's nothing hard here to understand, it was made simple to understand.
Think it was just a bad hangover and I assume you know what a hangover is, try being crucified and let me know about half way through, oh you need to be beaten within a literal inch of your life before hand.
Sorry to interject... but this has been done to death in a couple of threads dedicated on the topic. There was no sacrifice because we're talking about an omnipotent and omniscient entity. What did he sacrifice if he didn't stay dead? How is it a sacrifice if he knows nothing will be lost in the long run? In short, any entity paying itself for something is by nature meaningless and void of any substance. It's just pure
Jesus made himself human, and lived on earth with the same temptations we have. If at any point He had sinned He would of been condemned for it forever, because without His sinless life there is nothing to save from sins.
I'll precede this by saying again that I haven't done an in-depth study of hell...
But I have studied God's holiness and I understand this much:
If God is holy and perfect and all that stuff, and sin is rebellion against God, then God doesn't need to go out of His way to toss us into hell - all that hasbto happen is for Him to let us carry on, and without Jesus to atone for our sin, it's as impossible for us to live in God's presence as it is for darkness to stay in a room when the light is turned on.
God gave us breath, and life, so even now we all have something of Him in us, sustaining us. This is why the first recorded name we have for God (YHWH, or Yahweh), is actually pronounced as a breath in, and a breath out. Whether we like it or not, our every breath is a tribute to our Creator.
Sin is absence of God; the two cannot co-exist.
God simply allows us free will, and as we choose darkness He distances Himself from us and lets us make our decisions, for the duration of our lives.