(August 16, 2013 at 3:14 am)Undeceived Wrote: God is spiritual.Oh really? Why? Can't god just be the universe itself unfolding at every moment? Can't god be nature itself?
(August 16, 2013 at 3:14 am)Undeceived Wrote: We can only observe natural processes—every event, spiritual or not, must manifest itself in some natural way.And this is complete non-sequitur. Just because we can only experience natural events, why should spiritual events (whatever they are) manifest themselves in the natural world? As far as I know, they could as well remain isolated in their "spiritual world".
(August 16, 2013 at 3:14 am)Undeceived Wrote: Reason is the bridge between the realms. It allows us to look at natural events and judge—using prior experience—whether those events are normal or aberrant. If the aberrant events are drastic enough or numerous enough, we are led to contemplate the supernatural.What would such events be? And to be honest, we've been led many times to the supernatural as an explanation for "aberrant events" we could not explain. This is where your argument from ignorance comes in: since there are such "aberrant events" we cannot explain we can resort to the supernatural as an explanation. Nope.
Oh and my girlfriend exists. Which is not god's case.
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
