RE: Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism
August 17, 2013 at 1:12 am
(This post was last modified: August 17, 2013 at 1:20 am by Undeceived.)
(August 17, 2013 at 12:24 am)Esquilax Wrote:(August 16, 2013 at 6:39 pm)Undeceived Wrote: God is my standard. How else would you know an objective good, unless someone/something non-subjective made the rules?
So how did you decide that god is the good one and satan the evil one? You opted to follow god- many others don't- so there's clearly a decision you've made that god is the good one; how did you make that decision, if not with a preconceived moral compass?
God is objectively good because he is the Creator. He is also subjectively good, according to the Christian, because we experience his love and respond to it. "We love because he first loved us." (1 John 4:19) So I believe the answer you're looking for is that my initial moral compass was me. I viewed God as good in the light of how he treated me. It's the human way. The Christian's moral code is an objective one, but how are we to judge God objectively before we convert? Thus our initial moral compass must be subjective. But whether God is objectively good is another matter entirely. God is the way he is. He has a right to all things, because he created them. We perceive his actions as positive or negative depending on whether they have a positive or negative effect on us. But does one negative effect automatically make God's intentions--and therefore his character--evil? How could it?
If you or anyone wants to continue this discussion, please differentiate between objective and subjective good.