(August 17, 2013 at 7:50 am)fr0d0 Wrote: @Esq I won't bother wasting time on your straw men. You can't be bothered to address me squarely. That doesn't deserve an answer.
I love it, you do this every time you don't have an answer: you just say the name of a fallacy, and then stop conversing. How about you justify your accusation? Or, you know, tell me where I'm going wrong, if you think I'm misrepresenting you?
Because I assure you, I'm not doing it on purpose if that's the case. You just seem to be unwilling to actually express your position, and are in fact being really evasive, here.
Quote:You still didn't justify that. Why shouldn't a rationally justified argument be enough to believe something? Why should we not trust our reasoning abilities?
Because you can rationalize next to anything: one can construct logical chains of thought out of false premises, after all. Or, hell, they don't even need to be outright false, if you're not taking everything into account. Here, lemme show you: 1. All dogs die. 2 Abraham Lincoln is dead. Therefore, Abraham Lincoln is a dog. The premises are both true, but I've come to an untrue conclusion because there are additional facts I haven't taken into account. The same can be true of any seemingly rational argument one constructs without recourse to verifiable evidence.
Without any physical corroboration from the world around you, the conclusions you've come to are just in your head.
And we don't trust our reasoning abilities because they were developed and evolved to deal with smaller scale problems than the ones we're currently talking about. We reason that the world is flat because it looks like we're living on a flat plane. We reason that the world is the center of the solar system because the sun seems to be moving from our position, but we aren't. What changed those incorrect reasonings? Well, verifiable evidence!
We're all working with fancy ape-brains, here; nothing in our reasoning heuristics is set up to deal with issues on a scale larger than, say, our immediate community group. Certainly not on the scale of gods or the origins of the universe.
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
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