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What if Jesus had failed?
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RE: What if Jesus had failed?
(August 22, 2013 at 6:05 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: I'd say Christians have a little bit more evidence to go on if anything, something is better than nothing at all.

But that would require that you believe in pretty much any creature or concept that has some evidence, because evidence that it does not exist is not available. Think of any mythical creature from past or present, and there will be some evidence of it. Stories, legends, histories, scholarly studies, pictures, paintings, footprints, even eyewitness accounts. There will be no evidence that these creatures do NOT exist.

Therefore you are forced to believe in dragons, and griffins, and unicorns, and bigfoot, and the Loch Ness monster and green men from Mars in their saucer-shaped spaceships and any number of other beings for whom there is a little bit more evidence for than against.

(August 23, 2013 at 1:04 am)ronedee Wrote: When you start thinking out of the box, all sorts of questions arise.

Well, yeah. That is how I started this particular topic. I got to wondering, and decided to ask the question. I'm glad that at least a couple of theists have stepped up and made a selection and explained it, thank you.

As for deciphering god's mind, we're humans, it's what we do. We want to know how things work. For believers, they should want to know how god thinks, even if it seems impossible. He did provide you with his thoughts and deeds on paper, so there is material to work with. The alternative would be to not want to know how he thinks, and that seems creepy to me.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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What if Jesus had failed? - by Tonus - August 21, 2013 at 7:53 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Drich - August 21, 2013 at 8:17 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Ryantology - August 21, 2013 at 9:07 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Tonus - August 21, 2013 at 8:20 am
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RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Tonus - August 21, 2013 at 8:35 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Drich - August 21, 2013 at 9:41 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Tonus - August 21, 2013 at 11:20 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Darwinian - August 21, 2013 at 8:36 am
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RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Drich - August 21, 2013 at 12:43 pm
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RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by max-greece - August 21, 2013 at 11:05 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by CleanShavenJesus - August 21, 2013 at 11:05 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 21, 2013 at 11:17 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 21, 2013 at 2:11 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Drich - August 21, 2013 at 2:42 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 21, 2013 at 2:58 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by FallentoReason - August 21, 2013 at 8:57 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Drich - August 22, 2013 at 8:53 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Tonus - August 22, 2013 at 9:54 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Drich - August 22, 2013 at 2:41 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Tonus - August 23, 2013 at 7:42 am
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RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Drich - August 22, 2013 at 11:44 pm
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RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 22, 2013 at 4:50 pm
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RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 22, 2013 at 5:00 pm
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RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Faith No More - August 22, 2013 at 6:03 pm
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RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 22, 2013 at 5:34 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 22, 2013 at 6:05 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Faith No More - August 22, 2013 at 9:00 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Ryantology - August 22, 2013 at 11:43 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 7:31 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Tonus - August 23, 2013 at 7:59 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 8:13 am
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RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 3:07 pm
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RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 4:09 pm
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RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Godschild - August 22, 2013 at 6:46 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 22, 2013 at 7:13 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by smax - August 22, 2013 at 7:40 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 23, 2013 at 12:37 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by ronedee - August 23, 2013 at 1:04 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 23, 2013 at 1:36 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Darwinian - August 23, 2013 at 7:43 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Faith No More - August 23, 2013 at 7:47 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 7:58 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Ryantology - August 23, 2013 at 10:08 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Drich - August 23, 2013 at 4:05 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Bad Writer - August 23, 2013 at 12:20 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 23, 2013 at 12:30 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by ronedee - August 23, 2013 at 12:42 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 23, 2013 at 12:45 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 23, 2013 at 4:52 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 5:19 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Ryantology - August 23, 2013 at 5:14 pm
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RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 5:40 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 23, 2013 at 6:04 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 6:10 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Captain Colostomy - August 23, 2013 at 6:19 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 6:22 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Tonus - August 24, 2013 at 8:28 am
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RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by ronedee - August 24, 2013 at 11:11 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Bad Writer - August 24, 2013 at 11:19 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 25, 2013 at 12:40 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 25, 2013 at 7:01 am
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RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 25, 2013 at 11:03 am
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