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What if Jesus had failed?
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RE: What if Jesus had failed?
(August 23, 2013 at 8:13 am)Sword of Christ Wrote:
(August 23, 2013 at 7:59 am)Tonus Wrote: But that would require that you believe in pretty much any creature or concept that has some evidence, because evidence that it does not exist is not available. Think of any mythical creature from past or present, and there will be some evidence of it. Stories, legends, histories, scholarly studies, pictures, paintings, footprints, even eyewitness accounts. There will be no evidence that these creatures do NOT exist.

You may have to be a little more open minded when it comes to the existence of the supernatural in general, seeing as it is kind of the idea. Otherwise what you would end up with is a kind of deism, but deism is a waste of time you may as well be an atheist than to believe in a God or a supernatural reality that does nothing at all.

What is kind of the idea? That you have to believe in things to believe in things? No shit.

What do you mean you might as well be an atheist? Look, for all the supernatural effects Christians have on reality, they may as well be atheists.

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(August 23, 2013 at 7:59 am)Tonus Wrote: Therefore you are forced to believe in dragons, and griffins, and unicorns, and bigfoot, and the Loch Ness monster and green men from Mars in their saucer-shaped spaceships and any number of other beings for whom there is a little bit more evidence for than against.

Dragons, griffins and unicorns were originally just exotic animals and not supernatural. Bigfoot isn't supernatural but there's a chance that is some kind of undiscovered Australopithecus bipedal species of ape somewhere. The Lochness Monster could be some kind of giant eel or fish. 95% of UFO sightings have an explanation, the remaining 5% could be alien ships, alien probes or something a little more exotic and interdimensional. UFO sightings go all the way right back through history and are somewhat consistent. Fighter planes certainly have been dispatched to intercept something and we have pretty reliable reports on what they encountered. So yes you can be a little less cynical on these things.

You don't know any of this. But you're not content with saying you don't know. You're making speculations about everything and pretending they're worth more than just a person's imaginations.
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What if Jesus had failed? - by Tonus - August 21, 2013 at 7:53 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Drich - August 21, 2013 at 8:17 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Ryantology - August 21, 2013 at 9:07 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Tonus - August 21, 2013 at 8:20 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Drich - August 21, 2013 at 8:26 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Tonus - August 21, 2013 at 8:35 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Drich - August 21, 2013 at 9:41 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Tonus - August 21, 2013 at 11:20 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Darwinian - August 21, 2013 at 8:36 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Drich - August 21, 2013 at 9:45 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by freedomfromforum - August 21, 2013 at 2:27 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Doubting Thomas - August 21, 2013 at 8:42 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by KichigaiNeko - August 21, 2013 at 9:37 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by FallentoReason - August 21, 2013 at 9:45 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by FallentoReason - August 21, 2013 at 9:50 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Drich - August 21, 2013 at 12:43 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by max-greece - August 22, 2013 at 1:29 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by max-greece - August 21, 2013 at 11:05 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by CleanShavenJesus - August 21, 2013 at 11:05 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 21, 2013 at 11:17 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 21, 2013 at 2:11 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Drich - August 21, 2013 at 2:42 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 21, 2013 at 2:58 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by FallentoReason - August 21, 2013 at 8:57 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Drich - August 22, 2013 at 8:53 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Tonus - August 22, 2013 at 9:54 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Drich - August 22, 2013 at 2:41 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Tonus - August 23, 2013 at 7:42 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Drich - August 23, 2013 at 9:12 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by gall - August 22, 2013 at 10:05 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Ryantology - August 22, 2013 at 5:24 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Drich - August 22, 2013 at 11:44 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by smax - August 24, 2013 at 7:31 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by rexbeccarox - August 22, 2013 at 1:47 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by smax - August 22, 2013 at 2:15 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 22, 2013 at 2:22 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 22, 2013 at 4:50 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by smax - August 22, 2013 at 7:02 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 22, 2013 at 5:00 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Faith No More - August 22, 2013 at 5:13 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 22, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Faith No More - August 22, 2013 at 6:03 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Tonus - August 23, 2013 at 7:50 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Godschild - August 23, 2013 at 5:19 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 22, 2013 at 5:08 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Anomalocaris - August 22, 2013 at 5:15 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 22, 2013 at 5:34 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 22, 2013 at 6:05 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Faith No More - August 22, 2013 at 9:00 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Ryantology - August 22, 2013 at 11:43 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 7:31 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Tonus - August 23, 2013 at 7:59 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 8:13 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 23, 2013 at 10:55 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 3:07 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Silver - August 23, 2013 at 3:08 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 4:09 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Silver - August 23, 2013 at 4:13 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 5:12 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Silver - August 23, 2013 at 5:18 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Crossless1 - August 23, 2013 at 5:22 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Ryantology - August 22, 2013 at 5:34 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Godschild - August 22, 2013 at 6:46 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 22, 2013 at 7:13 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by smax - August 22, 2013 at 7:40 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 23, 2013 at 12:37 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by ronedee - August 23, 2013 at 1:04 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 23, 2013 at 1:36 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Darwinian - August 23, 2013 at 7:43 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Faith No More - August 23, 2013 at 7:47 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 7:58 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Ryantology - August 23, 2013 at 10:08 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Drich - August 23, 2013 at 4:05 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Bad Writer - August 23, 2013 at 12:20 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 23, 2013 at 12:30 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by ronedee - August 23, 2013 at 12:42 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 23, 2013 at 12:45 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 23, 2013 at 4:52 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 5:19 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Ryantology - August 23, 2013 at 5:14 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Ryantology - August 23, 2013 at 5:22 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Godschild - August 23, 2013 at 5:34 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Captain Colostomy - August 23, 2013 at 5:42 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by max-greece - August 23, 2013 at 5:37 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 5:40 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 23, 2013 at 6:04 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 6:10 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Captain Colostomy - August 23, 2013 at 6:19 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 6:22 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Tonus - August 24, 2013 at 8:28 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 24, 2013 at 9:49 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by MindForgedManacle - August 24, 2013 at 5:06 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Ryantology - August 23, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 23, 2013 at 9:02 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Cato - August 24, 2013 at 1:34 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 24, 2013 at 3:39 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by MindForgedManacle - August 24, 2013 at 1:55 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by ThomM - August 24, 2013 at 9:10 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Godschild - August 24, 2013 at 4:47 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by ronedee - August 24, 2013 at 9:16 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Tonus - August 26, 2013 at 5:50 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Bad Writer - August 24, 2013 at 1:06 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 24, 2013 at 10:58 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by ronedee - August 24, 2013 at 11:11 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Bad Writer - August 24, 2013 at 11:19 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 25, 2013 at 12:40 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 25, 2013 at 7:01 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by ParCutz - August 24, 2013 at 11:33 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Minimalist - August 25, 2013 at 11:03 am
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Sword of Christ - August 25, 2013 at 3:45 pm
RE: What if Jesus had failed? - by Bad Writer - August 25, 2013 at 5:04 pm

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