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Atheists are mentally ill
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RE: Atheists are mentally ill
(August 23, 2013 at 11:10 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: God explains literally everything we understand, as well as anything we don't understand and God will explain himself to us through the scriptures.

Uh uh, no. God doesn't explain anything about anything: shrugging and saying god... doesn't tell you anything at all. It doesn't tell you how, or why, or even what, since the Genesis account is entirely contradicted by what we know to be true about the universe. "Godidit" is an explanation that is completely content free, asserted without evidence, and defended despite all the evidence pointing to the contrary.

Quote:It doesn't mean to say of course that the Bible is a book of science it provides the underpinning of a universe that can be understood by a rational mind. It can be understood this because it was as the Bible insist purposefully made for a reason.

You first need to prove that the biblical account of things actually corresponds to reality before you start claiming that it explains things. Good luck with that: why not start with how plants were created before the sun?


Quote:How do you know humans aren't ever capable of doing this? Perhaps it's beyond the capability of the average guy on the street or if they have any capability at all is so subtle as to be unnoticed. If you were to try to remove all of Jesus's paranormal capabilities from the gospels then as Jefferson discovered you're not left with much of a coherent story of the man himself. A man who couldn't heal anyone wouldn't have crowds flocking to him or people cutting holes in his rood in an attempt to get to him. If you believe in God them all of this is perfectly reasonably possible. Bear in mind that these miraculous powers aren't claimed to be limited to Jesus though perhaps he had the highest grade it's possible for a human to have.

Another possibility: the story was entirely made up, or embellished in places, or even composed of multiple accounts of different people. How can you tell? By just accepting that it's true, you're only begging the question. Instead of interpreting the evidence to fit the bible, why not forget the book and see where the evidence leads on its own?


Quote:We only abolished slavery because of the teachings of Christ to begin with.

Which teachings? Was it the one about slaves obeying their masters, perhaps? Also, I believe the white slave owners who justified slavery with the bible... might disagree with you.

Quote:The abolition movement was inspired directly from Christianity,

It was also opposed by it. What are we to draw from that?

Quote: as was the human rights movement,

It was also opposed by it: what are we to draw from this?

Quote: the gender equality movement

Which is also opposed by it to this day. There are entire congregations that smile and nod to the idea of women submitting to their husbands.

Quote: and everything else.

Anything else you'd like to take credit for? The smell of fresh baked cookies, perhaps?

Quote: It all goes back to Jesus and God. This was God manifested in human life, look at the difference he made to world. Again it's like evidence you can see yet you will deny it.

No. It goes back to people. Honestly, every one of those good things you mentioned, you can find christians on either side of the issue. I know you will, as most christians do, leap to the no true scotsman fallacy there, but actually think about it: you're left with two options here. Either god directly intervened with the minds of only the people on the sides you like, contravening their free will in the process, or both sides were able to draw adequate justification for their actions from the bible. The latter is more likely, so think about what that means.

Quote:Christianity is the one with the most evidence, the one that had the biggest impact on the world, the most original, the most rational and the most influential. The other religions have a chance of being true sure, as does atheism/naturalism as a belief. That's the way it is but you go for the best pick of the pack you don't mess around.

You know, the practitioners of every other religion are telling us the exact same thing... Thinking
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee

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Atheists are mentally ill - by Faith No More - August 14, 2013 at 9:02 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 14, 2013 at 9:06 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Minimalist - August 14, 2013 at 9:24 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Rayaan - August 14, 2013 at 10:25 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Jackalope - August 14, 2013 at 9:12 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 14, 2013 at 9:42 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Faith No More - August 14, 2013 at 10:00 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Jackalope - August 14, 2013 at 10:03 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Bad Writer - August 14, 2013 at 9:44 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Kayenneh - August 14, 2013 at 9:53 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 14, 2013 at 10:08 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Faith No More - August 14, 2013 at 10:17 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 14, 2013 at 10:37 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Cyberman - August 14, 2013 at 11:15 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Minimalist - August 14, 2013 at 11:58 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Rayaan - August 15, 2013 at 1:09 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by orogenicman - August 15, 2013 at 1:13 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Esquilax - August 15, 2013 at 7:12 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Silver - August 15, 2013 at 7:43 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 15, 2013 at 7:58 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pocaracas - August 15, 2013 at 8:53 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Nine - August 15, 2013 at 10:03 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Cyberman - August 15, 2013 at 11:04 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Crossless1 - August 15, 2013 at 12:01 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by fr0d0 - August 15, 2013 at 12:05 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 15, 2013 at 2:06 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by NoraBrimstone - August 15, 2013 at 2:37 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Faith No More - August 15, 2013 at 3:11 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Cyberman - August 15, 2013 at 3:43 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Jackalope - August 15, 2013 at 3:52 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Jackalope - August 15, 2013 at 4:01 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Cyberman - August 15, 2013 at 4:28 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Faith No More - August 15, 2013 at 4:05 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by tokutter - August 15, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Jackalope - August 15, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Faith No More - August 15, 2013 at 4:32 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Anomalocaris - August 15, 2013 at 5:21 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Ryantology - August 15, 2013 at 5:59 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Angrboda - August 15, 2013 at 7:36 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Silver - August 15, 2013 at 7:39 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Faith No More - August 15, 2013 at 8:50 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Silver - August 15, 2013 at 8:52 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Bad Writer - August 15, 2013 at 7:55 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Faith No More - August 15, 2013 at 9:09 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Silver - August 15, 2013 at 9:11 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Manowar - August 20, 2013 at 9:57 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by KichigaiNeko - August 21, 2013 at 2:56 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 22, 2013 at 5:06 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Faith No More - August 22, 2013 at 5:19 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 22, 2013 at 5:51 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Faith No More - August 22, 2013 at 6:16 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pocaracas - August 22, 2013 at 6:25 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Silver - August 22, 2013 at 6:51 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Anomalocaris - August 22, 2013 at 7:09 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 23, 2013 at 12:00 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Ryantology - August 22, 2013 at 5:33 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Ryantology - August 22, 2013 at 6:08 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 22, 2013 at 7:01 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Jackalope - August 22, 2013 at 7:09 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by ParCutz - August 22, 2013 at 7:32 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pocaracas - August 22, 2013 at 8:04 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Faith No More - August 22, 2013 at 8:09 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Ryantology - August 22, 2013 at 11:32 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 7:47 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Chas - August 23, 2013 at 9:06 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 23, 2013 at 9:09 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 9:38 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 23, 2013 at 9:49 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Silver - August 23, 2013 at 11:12 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 11:20 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by gall - August 23, 2013 at 11:32 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 1:39 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by gall - August 23, 2013 at 1:50 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Silver - August 23, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Faith No More - August 23, 2013 at 4:04 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 4:30 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Silver - August 23, 2013 at 4:36 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 4:55 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Silver - August 23, 2013 at 5:01 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Jackalope - August 23, 2013 at 5:04 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Chas - August 23, 2013 at 7:02 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Edwardo Piet - August 25, 2013 at 4:41 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Crossless1 - August 23, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by tokutter - August 27, 2013 at 3:45 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Silver - August 23, 2013 at 11:32 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 23, 2013 at 11:36 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Esquilax - August 23, 2013 at 11:38 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Silver - August 23, 2013 at 9:59 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Jackalope - August 23, 2013 at 12:31 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Angrboda - August 23, 2013 at 7:01 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Cyberman - August 22, 2013 at 7:25 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Jackalope - August 22, 2013 at 8:00 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 23, 2013 at 11:50 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by gall - August 23, 2013 at 1:26 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 1:54 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Esquilax - August 23, 2013 at 2:01 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 2:29 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Captain Colostomy - August 23, 2013 at 3:41 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 3:53 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Captain Colostomy - August 23, 2013 at 4:13 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pocaracas - August 23, 2013 at 4:34 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Esquilax - August 24, 2013 at 5:33 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 24, 2013 at 6:08 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Edwardo Piet - August 23, 2013 at 4:01 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Ryantology - August 23, 2013 at 4:58 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 23, 2013 at 6:02 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Silver - August 23, 2013 at 6:12 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pocaracas - August 23, 2013 at 6:16 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 24, 2013 at 4:19 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Ryantology - August 24, 2013 at 4:25 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 24, 2013 at 4:38 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Captain Colostomy - August 24, 2013 at 4:56 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 24, 2013 at 5:01 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Captain Colostomy - August 24, 2013 at 5:39 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 24, 2013 at 10:09 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Creed of Heresy - August 24, 2013 at 10:31 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 24, 2013 at 5:46 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 24, 2013 at 11:02 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Silver - August 24, 2013 at 11:09 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 24, 2013 at 12:39 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 24, 2013 at 5:19 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Gil Gaudia - August 24, 2013 at 5:35 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Angrboda - August 24, 2013 at 6:34 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 24, 2013 at 10:23 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by MindForgedManacle - August 24, 2013 at 2:42 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Ryantology - August 26, 2013 at 6:00 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Captain Colostomy - August 24, 2013 at 5:20 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 24, 2013 at 5:46 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Esquilax - August 24, 2013 at 6:08 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 24, 2013 at 4:02 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 24, 2013 at 4:54 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Whateverist - August 24, 2013 at 9:00 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Esquilax - August 25, 2013 at 2:24 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Mister Agenda - August 26, 2013 at 3:05 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Jackalope - August 26, 2013 at 3:23 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Esquilax - August 24, 2013 at 5:41 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 24, 2013 at 2:31 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Angrboda - August 24, 2013 at 4:01 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pocaracas - August 24, 2013 at 5:55 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Sword of Christ - August 24, 2013 at 11:59 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Creed of Heresy - August 24, 2013 at 12:16 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pocaracas - August 25, 2013 at 6:35 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Angrboda - August 25, 2013 at 6:05 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Ryantology - August 23, 2013 at 7:18 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Mister Agenda - August 23, 2013 at 5:01 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Captain Colostomy - August 23, 2013 at 5:04 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by LastPoet - August 23, 2013 at 5:11 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Captain Colostomy - August 23, 2013 at 6:08 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 23, 2013 at 9:04 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Captain Colostomy - August 23, 2013 at 9:32 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Creed of Heresy - August 24, 2013 at 7:50 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Faith No More - August 24, 2013 at 4:33 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 24, 2013 at 5:23 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Cyberman - August 24, 2013 at 8:09 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Angrboda - August 24, 2013 at 8:30 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pocaracas - August 24, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Gil Gaudia - August 24, 2013 at 7:19 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by ManMachine - August 26, 2013 at 4:13 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Lemonvariable72 - August 28, 2013 at 1:47 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Cyberman - August 28, 2013 at 6:21 am
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Lemonvariable72 - August 28, 2013 at 2:43 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by CraigOfArabia - August 28, 2013 at 4:13 am

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