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What if Jesus had failed?

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RE: What if Jesus had failed?

August 24, 2013 at 1:55 am

If I understand correctly, Jesus did in fact fail as far as the Jews interpretation of the Hebrew Bible goes, i.e the Messiah was supposed to usher in David's kingdom on Earth. And Jesus was among a number of supposed messiahs (we know about like a dozen, meaning there were probably a lot more), and some of those 'messiahs' had followers far outstripping Jesus of Nazareth. Even the general type of Christianity that happened to survive was largely because of a particular trait of Roman society: they placed more stock in things with a long tradition. Hence Marcionite Christianity, which claimed the God of Christianity was a different god than that of the Jews and was therefore seen as "new", didn't get Constantine's support.

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What if Jesus had failed? - by Tonus - August 21, 2013 at 7:53 am

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