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Not again! -- Encouragement Please
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RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please
(August 28, 2013 at 7:26 am)Esquilax Wrote: Is it possible to have an objective viewpoint if it clashes with your own, Drich?

But this has to be the case, for anyone who subscribes to a belief that there are objective truths. Anyone who purports to be an exception to an absolute truth/law/etc cannot possibly be an exception if it runs contrary to what must be true. If god is the only way to the actual-100%-for-sure-truth, to deny him is to either be wrong or to deliberately deny what cannot be denied. I don't think that there is room for compromise.

I think that's why some of the more egregious mental gymnastics that seem so bizarre seem perfectly rational to the believer. It has to be rational, no matter how irrational it may seem.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by themonkeyman - August 26, 2013 at 9:12 am
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Psykhronic - August 26, 2013 at 9:28 am
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Drich - August 26, 2013 at 9:45 am
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Tonus - August 26, 2013 at 9:55 am
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Drich - August 26, 2013 at 9:55 am
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by downbeatplumb - August 26, 2013 at 9:57 am
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Walking Void - August 26, 2013 at 11:36 am
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by freedomfromforum - August 26, 2013 at 11:45 am
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by CleanShavenJesus - August 26, 2013 at 12:56 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Jackalope - August 27, 2013 at 2:25 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by bladevalant546 - August 26, 2013 at 1:08 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Drich - August 26, 2013 at 2:06 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Godschild - August 26, 2013 at 5:13 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Ryantology - August 26, 2013 at 11:33 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Godschild - August 26, 2013 at 10:27 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by CapnAwesome - August 26, 2013 at 1:51 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by themonkeyman - August 26, 2013 at 2:30 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Drich - August 26, 2013 at 4:34 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by JesusHChrist - August 26, 2013 at 6:20 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Godschild - August 26, 2013 at 11:06 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Paraselene - August 26, 2013 at 11:13 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Godschild - August 26, 2013 at 11:15 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Paraselene - August 26, 2013 at 11:21 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Godschild - August 26, 2013 at 11:47 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by themonkeyman - August 27, 2013 at 7:15 am
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Godschild - August 27, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Drich - August 27, 2013 at 8:53 am
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by themonkeyman - August 27, 2013 at 9:42 am
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Drich - August 27, 2013 at 2:30 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Godschild - August 27, 2013 at 4:50 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Drich - August 27, 2013 at 2:19 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Paraselene - August 27, 2013 at 12:07 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Drich - August 27, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Ryantology - August 27, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Doubting Thomas - August 27, 2013 at 11:30 am
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by themonkeyman - August 27, 2013 at 4:13 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Drich - August 27, 2013 at 5:43 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Esquilax - August 28, 2013 at 7:26 am
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Drich - August 28, 2013 at 8:05 am
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Esquilax - August 28, 2013 at 8:28 am
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Paraselene - August 28, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Tonus - August 28, 2013 at 9:38 am
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Esquilax - August 28, 2013 at 11:37 am
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by themonkeyman - August 28, 2013 at 8:04 am
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Godschild - August 28, 2013 at 3:42 pm
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by FallentoReason - August 28, 2013 at 8:27 am
RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please - by Drich - August 28, 2013 at 1:00 pm

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