[/quote]
I ask you to show us a couple of things.... well you going to or not.
GC
[/quote]
This source talks about both the lunar eclipse and the Star of Bethlehem:
http://www.denverastrosociety.org/dfiles...hlehem.pdf
"Author Susan S. Carroll writes in her articl
e The Star of Bethlehem: An Astronomical
and Historical Perspective
, that according to Flavius Josephus (circa 100 AD), Herod
died after a lunar eclipse and was buried be
fore Passover. Lunar
eclipses during this
period occurred:
•
March 23, 5 BC (total)
•
September 15, 5 BC
•
March 13, 4 BC (partial)
•
January 10, 1 BC (total)
2
The March 23, 5 BC eclipse was ruled out because there was not enough time between
this eclipse and the burial of Herod’s body
to conform to local customs and mourning
periods. September 15, 5 BC, was ruled out
because Herod was alive and in Jericho at
his winter palace at that time and, although ill,
would have objected strenuously to being
buried. The eclipse of March 13, 4 BC wa
s only partial (40%) and ruled out because
Josephus referenced the moon turning red (whi
ch he attributed to the blood of slain
rabbis) and a partial eclipse would not ha
ve resulted in a red moon [Kaufmann &
Freedman 1999]. Some scholars place Herod’s
death as late as January, 1 BC, which
coincides with the January 10 eclipse.[Carroll, Hughes] A large number of scholars still
favor 4 BC as the year of Herod’s death."
So, you see, the eclipse just doesn't work, unless you throw out every other fact. That is unreasonable. Besides, in this forum Josephus has been called a "forger", so even if you wanted to follow the eclipse theory, how could you?
Something to remember about the Star of Bethlehem:
"The reader should rememb
er that the Bible only mentions the word
“star” four times in Matthew, but nowhere else
in the Bible, not even Luke"
If the star was a fact, don't you think the other gospels would have mentioned it? You can defend it if you like. I just think if you do, you're grasping at straws.
And never forget Quirinias! In order to believe the star or lunar eclipse, you have to just throw him out. Not a good idea.
Anyways, have a good day.
I ask you to show us a couple of things.... well you going to or not.
GC[/quote]
This source talks about both the lunar eclipse and the Star of Bethlehem:
http://www.denverastrosociety.org/dfiles...hlehem.pdf
"Author Susan S. Carroll writes in her articl
e The Star of Bethlehem: An Astronomical
and Historical Perspective
, that according to Flavius Josephus (circa 100 AD), Herod
died after a lunar eclipse and was buried be
fore Passover. Lunar
eclipses during this
period occurred:
•
March 23, 5 BC (total)
•
September 15, 5 BC
•
March 13, 4 BC (partial)
•
January 10, 1 BC (total)
2
The March 23, 5 BC eclipse was ruled out because there was not enough time between
this eclipse and the burial of Herod’s body
to conform to local customs and mourning
periods. September 15, 5 BC, was ruled out
because Herod was alive and in Jericho at
his winter palace at that time and, although ill,
would have objected strenuously to being
buried. The eclipse of March 13, 4 BC wa
s only partial (40%) and ruled out because
Josephus referenced the moon turning red (whi
ch he attributed to the blood of slain
rabbis) and a partial eclipse would not ha
ve resulted in a red moon [Kaufmann &
Freedman 1999]. Some scholars place Herod’s
death as late as January, 1 BC, which
coincides with the January 10 eclipse.[Carroll, Hughes] A large number of scholars still
favor 4 BC as the year of Herod’s death."
So, you see, the eclipse just doesn't work, unless you throw out every other fact. That is unreasonable. Besides, in this forum Josephus has been called a "forger", so even if you wanted to follow the eclipse theory, how could you?
Something to remember about the Star of Bethlehem:
"The reader should rememb
er that the Bible only mentions the word
“star” four times in Matthew, but nowhere else
in the Bible, not even Luke"
If the star was a fact, don't you think the other gospels would have mentioned it? You can defend it if you like. I just think if you do, you're grasping at straws.
And never forget Quirinias! In order to believe the star or lunar eclipse, you have to just throw him out. Not a good idea.
Anyways, have a good day.
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.”
- Buddha
"Anyone wanting to believe Jesus lived and walked as a real live human being must do so despite the evidence, not because of it."
- Dennis McKinsey
- Buddha
"Anyone wanting to believe Jesus lived and walked as a real live human being must do so despite the evidence, not because of it."
- Dennis McKinsey
