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Moral Argument for God's Existence
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RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence
Craig says that objective values DO exist, because he knows that many will shy away from the horrors of some clearly immoral behaviors. All normal people will say that murdering innocents just for fun is wrong, for example, and those who disagree will be treated as inhuman monsters. Since all healthy humans shy away from murder, Craig will say, it must be an objective value. The same goes for raping children. And for killing fetuses, eating the meat of defenseless animals, and . . . oh shit, wait a minute.

Okay, so there are some values that are so strong in the human population that they are nearly universal. Why would God be a better description of that fact than evolution?
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Moral Argument for God's Existence - by MindForgedManacle - September 2, 2013 at 2:55 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Minimalist - September 2, 2013 at 3:06 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Tonus - September 2, 2013 at 7:25 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Faith No More - September 3, 2013 at 12:13 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Captain Colostomy - September 2, 2013 at 4:04 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Zen Badger - September 2, 2013 at 4:45 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 2, 2013 at 6:02 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Zen Badger - September 2, 2013 at 6:40 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 2, 2013 at 7:56 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Jackalope - September 2, 2013 at 11:06 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by bennyboy - September 2, 2013 at 8:48 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Zen Badger - September 2, 2013 at 9:23 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 2, 2013 at 9:32 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by max-greece - September 2, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 2, 2013 at 10:53 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by max-greece - September 2, 2013 at 11:58 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 12:02 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 11:51 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 12:25 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 12:30 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 1:40 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 1:42 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 1:46 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 2:02 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Minimalist - September 2, 2013 at 12:40 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by MindForgedManacle - September 2, 2013 at 12:45 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Minimalist - September 2, 2013 at 12:55 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Walking Void - September 2, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by NoraBrimstone - September 2, 2013 at 3:47 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 2, 2013 at 3:54 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 2, 2013 at 4:15 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by MindForgedManacle - September 2, 2013 at 4:41 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Lemonvariable72 - September 2, 2013 at 11:36 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by CapnAwesome - September 2, 2013 at 11:51 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 2, 2013 at 11:58 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by CapnAwesome - September 3, 2013 at 12:10 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 1:19 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by CapnAwesome - September 3, 2013 at 1:47 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 2:27 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by max-greece - September 3, 2013 at 7:32 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Minimalist - September 3, 2013 at 12:03 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Minimalist - September 3, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 4:02 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Faith No More - September 3, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 1:55 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 2:08 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Faith No More - September 3, 2013 at 2:02 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 2:24 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 2:30 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 2:44 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Simon Moon - September 3, 2013 at 3:29 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 3:45 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 4:12 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 4:17 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 4:18 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 4:26 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 4:32 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 4:34 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 4:44 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 4:51 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 5:20 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 5:49 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 6:03 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 6:10 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 1:06 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by bennyboy - September 4, 2013 at 3:01 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 4, 2013 at 9:54 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Esquilax - September 4, 2013 at 8:55 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 10:29 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 4, 2013 at 11:31 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 11:36 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 4, 2013 at 6:10 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Faith No More - September 3, 2013 at 2:31 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Faith No More - September 3, 2013 at 3:44 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 3, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by MindForgedManacle - September 3, 2013 at 5:03 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 5:05 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by MindForgedManacle - September 3, 2013 at 5:36 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 3, 2013 at 6:53 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 7:04 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Angrboda - September 3, 2013 at 10:59 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by max-greece - September 4, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Simon Moon - September 4, 2013 at 12:12 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by max-greece - September 4, 2013 at 12:32 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 4, 2013 at 12:58 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 1:00 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 4, 2013 at 1:06 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 4, 2013 at 1:27 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 1:30 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 4, 2013 at 1:34 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 1:40 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 4, 2013 at 2:33 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by MindForgedManacle - September 4, 2013 at 4:39 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 4, 2013 at 5:15 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 11:59 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 6, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 6, 2013 at 12:13 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 7, 2013 at 9:00 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 7, 2013 at 9:49 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Angrboda - September 4, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by max-greece - September 4, 2013 at 3:42 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by HenWladFyNhadau - September 4, 2013 at 12:46 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by max-greece - September 4, 2013 at 1:52 pm

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