RE: John the Baptist
September 7, 2013 at 3:00 pm
(This post was last modified: September 7, 2013 at 3:02 pm by DeistPaladin.)
(September 7, 2013 at 2:23 pm)John V Wrote: Incorrect. In the synoptics, the booming voice is followed by fasting in the desert and temptation by Satan, then after some unspecified amount of time Jesus went to Galilee and preached there. No indication is given of the amount of time between the temptation and going to Galilee.I read that as just another continuity gaffe that one would expect when a work of fiction of expanded upon by different authors.
Quote:No. You need to reverse 2 & 3 for starters.Incorrect. JtB never baptizes Jesus in John's version of the Gospel.
Quote:Oh, I see your confusion. Apostles are a subset of disciples. It's incorrect to conclude that disciples means apostles unless twelve or some other contextual clue is present.Red Herring fallacy. I said "discipleship".
Quote:Long-winded argument from silence.As usual, Christian apologists overwork the Argument from Silence fallacy to cover for their own Argument from Ignorance and Bare Assertion fallacies.
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And another.
Argument from Silence is only a fallacy in cases where it is plausible there might be no reports or evidence to be found. Otherwise, Argument from Ignorance would not be a fallacy.
Example:
Person A: "My house was broken into."
Person B: "I don't believe you because I've seen no reports of this in the news."
Argument from Silence fallacy. Mundane events might not make the news.
Person A: "My neighborhood was demolished by an alien fleet that is attacking Earth."
Person B: "I don't believe you because I've seen no reports of this in the news."
Not a fallacious application of Argument from Silence. An amazing event like this would get worldwide attention.
This is why it's reasonably to doubt that Jesus fed thousands with magically generated food, healed countless sick people, brought back the dead on two occasions and performed other public miracles in front of witnesses simply on the grounds that there's no historical record of any of these events outside Christian mythology.
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