John the Baptist

[Drich]

The water/wind wedding was in John chapter 2, after the meeting with JtB which was in John chapter 1.

Again Christ Ministry had started, In that He had received that Holy Spirit, and He picked a crew, but his time table to minister to People had not happened yet. As Per verse 4 of john 2:4 Jesus said to her, “Woman, what does your concern have to do with Me? My hour has not yet come.”

Wait! Does this mean you're a non-Trinitarian Christian?

No.

You sound like an Ebionite Christian, where Jesus was a normal guy until his baptism where he received (and formed a symbiotic relationship with) the Holy Spirit. If Jesus is one with the Father and Holy Spirit, that kind of precludes being later endowed with something he's already one with.

Read what is written where Jesus Receives the Gift of the Holy Spirit.

John 1:32 And John bore witness, saying, “I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and He remained upon Him. 33 I did not know Him, but He who sent me to baptize with water said to me, ‘Upon whom you see the Spirit descending, and remaining on Him, this is He who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.’ 34 And I have seen and testified that this is the Son of God.”\

Mat 3:
16 When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He[c] saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. 17 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”

Luke 3:
21 When all the people were baptized, it came to pass that Jesus also was baptized; and while He prayed, the heaven was opened. 22 And the Holy Spirit descended in bodily form like a dove upon Him, and a voice came from heaven which said, “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”

Mark 1:
9 It came to pass in those days that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized by John in the Jordan. 10 And immediately, coming up from[d] the water, He saw the heavens parting and the Spirit descending upon Him like a dove. 11 Then a voice came from heaven, “You are My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”

With all four accounts in agreement it can be said with out doubt that Christ received The Gift of the Holy Spirit upon His baptism.

How we look to establish Christ's Miricals were performed through the Power of the Holy Spirit.

We start With Mark 3:
20 Then the multitude came together again, so that they could not so much as eat bread. 21 But when His own people heard about this, they went out to lay hold of Him, for they said, “He is out of His mind.”

22 And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem said, “He has Beelzebub,” and, “By the ruler of the demons He casts out demons.”
23 So He called them to Himself and said to them in parables: “How can Satan cast out Satan? 24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 And if a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. 26 And if Satan has risen up against himself, and is divided, he cannot stand, but has an end. 27 No one can enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man. And then he will plunder his house. 28 “Assuredly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter; 29 but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation”— 30 because they said, “He has an unclean spirit.”

Christ's work in casting out demons was attributed to the Power of the Holy Spirit. As witnessed by the passage above. This is further highlited when the scribes said He used the power of a Satan to cast out demons. How did He respond? Blaspheme against Himself would be forgiven, but blaspheme against the Holy Spirit would never be forgiven.

Why would Christ need to say this if He were the sole source of the excorsism? The Scribes did not use the Holy Spirit's name in any way shape or form. They probably was not even away of the Holy Spirit at that point. Verse 30 explains 'why.' Because they said He had an unclean Spirit.' and it was by this unclean spirit that He did His works. Christ's response said that was blaspheme, leaving the oppsite to be true. (That He did His works according to the Holy Spirit.)

But perhaps I'm over-thinking your theological philosophy and how well you've thought it through?

Until you questioned it just now I never put together a defense of what I believed. As you can see though what I believe is well documented in scripture. That said feel free to lable me anyway you like, because no matter what you may think I am a bible believeing Christian, and it is to the bible I pledge my algeiance and not to some religious title given by man.

Have you actually read the Gospel of John?

a couple of times.

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The simpler explanation is that it's a continuity gaffe.

That's because the editor of The Amazing Spider-Moses was too busy dealing with the big crossover between that character and The Fantastic Twelve to realize that the writer of The Invincible Iron Messiah hadn't read issues 252-255 of The Uncanny X-Caananites. It's shit like this that makes a comic-book editor's life so damned stressful.

So what the problem is?

Are you channeling Yoda?

Actually Martin Lawrance.

I tried to post a youtube link but couldn't. I don't know what the problem is with dat.

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It begins in Matty 3:13 and goes through 4:17. Why don't you take off your rosary-bead colored glasses and read your own bullshit.

I read mat and john and still don't see it..