(January 15, 2010 at 9:13 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(January 15, 2010 at 7:56 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: Quite simply Frodo, if God is not an emergent property of the universe then it is most likely to be its creator.
If the universe emerged from God how could the universe be anything but God? How do you arrive at something producing something else foreign to it? That's illogical.
(January 15, 2010 at 7:56 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: And as to why human adoration is not its ultimate goal?
Because the Universe is about 14 billion years old. Humanity has only been practicing religion for a few thousand years. Seems to be a huge effort for very little return. And for that matter, how do you "know" that human adoration is its ultimate goal.
You brought up that ridiculous idea and I wondered how you got there. You seem to be talking to an imaginary fundie in your head.
If you read what I put: "'It's' ultimate goal is clearly nothing to do with human adoration. Another wild leap of logic." ...you'd see I was dismissing the notion that human adoration was anything to do with God's "ultimate goal".
You appear to misunderstand what I mean by God being an emergent property of the universe.
I mean that God is a result of the universe, not the other way around.
And as to human adoration being its ultimate goal?
Try reading Revelations.
However, please feel free to tell us what you think its ultimate goals might be.
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