(September 9, 2013 at 5:33 pm)ManMachine Wrote: There are other gods to the Abrahamic gods with different dogmas, this may only address some of the issues with Abrahamic religions, even so, abstracting these concepts and presenting them as reduced metaphors is not really useful to any debate.
MM
I'm not looking to define the entire religion. I am looking or a couple answers to a couple of concepts. Saying that there are other factors that need to be acknowledged is just avoiding the question, IMO. You could ask "Was the person telling the story mentally handicapped, or what language was the story written in?" and an infinite number of, frankly, irrelevant factors. Just focus on the question I asked and stop trying to make it more confusing than it really is. Just address the ONE idea. As for the farmer metaphor, you could ask "Was it the farmer's birthday, or was the gun even loaded?" but again, that's just avoiding the direct question.
I asked two simple questions, but nobody wants to address the questions as they were given; they are trying to modify the questions so that they can say I was too simplistic or weak. I disagree. It's just like with an analytical or a faithful look at the Bible. Christians always beat around the bush, warping the simple questions so that they can claim they aren't legitimate.
Just answer the questions, don't try to change what they mean. It's not that hard, just scary to some.
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.”
- Buddha
"Anyone wanting to believe Jesus lived and walked as a real live human being must do so despite the evidence, not because of it."
- Dennis McKinsey
- Buddha
"Anyone wanting to believe Jesus lived and walked as a real live human being must do so despite the evidence, not because of it."
- Dennis McKinsey