RE: Argument Against an Infinite Past
September 10, 2013 at 3:09 pm
(This post was last modified: September 10, 2013 at 3:33 pm by Anomalocaris.)
You can say, conceptually, quantum mechanisms removes the classical distinction between nothing and something. Nothing and something exists along the same continum of "thingness" and the fundamental nature of existence stipulates continuous variation of value of "thingness" conforming to some probability distribution function. It appears the whole universe can be a particularly outlying example of this variation within the probability distribution.
Does that imply there exists some profound substrate of nature beyond the "nothing" and "something" we see? Probably. Do we have a partial empirical discription of how the operations of this substrate would be perceived within our concept of time? Yes. Do we know if something conceptually analogous to time really operates within this substrate itself? No, we don't. Do we have any fundamental understanding of this substrate yet? No, we don't.
So, If our universe is but a outlier example, with its own time, of the fundamental and continuous process of the substrate, and we don't have a fundamental understanding of this substrate, any speculation about about whether time is infinite (ie it extends through the beginning of our universe into the substrate), or whether infinite time can be traversed, is airy speculation without the least fundation.
Since we have no fundamental understanding of the substrate driving these phenomenon, attributing intentionality to this substrate, and attributing to it the inferred properties of a undocumented guru combines a maximum of yokelish presumption with a maximum of provincial small mindedness.
Does that imply there exists some profound substrate of nature beyond the "nothing" and "something" we see? Probably. Do we have a partial empirical discription of how the operations of this substrate would be perceived within our concept of time? Yes. Do we know if something conceptually analogous to time really operates within this substrate itself? No, we don't. Do we have any fundamental understanding of this substrate yet? No, we don't.
So, If our universe is but a outlier example, with its own time, of the fundamental and continuous process of the substrate, and we don't have a fundamental understanding of this substrate, any speculation about about whether time is infinite (ie it extends through the beginning of our universe into the substrate), or whether infinite time can be traversed, is airy speculation without the least fundation.
Since we have no fundamental understanding of the substrate driving these phenomenon, attributing intentionality to this substrate, and attributing to it the inferred properties of a undocumented guru combines a maximum of yokelish presumption with a maximum of provincial small mindedness.