(January 15, 2010 at 9:41 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(January 15, 2010 at 9:26 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: You appear to misunderstand what I mean by God being an emergent property of the universe. I mean that God is a result of the universe, not the other way around.
Yes but you're making it either/ or: You said: "we have concluded that God is not an emergent property. But a Creator"
What I'm saying is that if you suppose God to be the creator, then it follows that he has to be everything that emerges as well.
(January 15, 2010 at 9:26 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: And as to human adoration being its ultimate goal? Try reading Revelations. However, please feel free to tell us what you think its ultimate goals might be.
1. I thought we weren't talking about Christianity?
2. You choose to be literalist ...I don't thanks.
As to your first point, why, if God is the creator, then it follows that he has to be everything that emerges as well.
How fo you arrive at that conclusion.
And since we apparently both agree that human adoration is not God's ultimate goal.
Again, I ask, what do you think it would be?
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.