The nature of God

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Well you're capable of opinion, now show that you're capable of argument.

I'm capable of spotting sophistry which is all you seem to be coming up with. Hence the endless circling.

You're a master in dodging simple questions like

Why is the following statement "life is something beautiful, not because some god says so, but because we can figure it out ourselves" a ridiculous POV?

Be a man and answer the question or crawl back in your religious stone age cave.

God doesn't say any such thing.. in fact I'm not even sure if he has vocal chords??? We of course have to figure out everything out for ouselves because perspective is subjective as is beauty.

I'm sure he has no vocal chords, that would be attributes and he does not like that. Probably hates that typical moaning singing in church for it.

But what I obviously meant was a figure of speech. Let me rephrase so you can understand:

"life is something beautiful, not because the word of some god prescribes it, but because we can figure it out ourselves"

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Sorry I was just answering the question as presented. Life is something beautiful. Subjective, but yes. I don't think the world is beautiful because God's word "says" it is. I think it's just beautiful, and adjective attributed by human perspective on reality. My relationship of it's value comes from within and is not universal. Universally though, it doesn't ascribe as to what created that beauty. God creating the beauty doesn't give the value of that beauty any more or less value. As for us "figure it out ourselves" that's obvious. We are all observers and reason comes naturally to us as a species. Just because we figure out how the insides of a computer work, who made it and why they made it doesn't change the value of the computer itself on a philosophical level. Realistically of course we add more value to something if it has provenance, but the object is the same as it started before provenance and if looked at truely then it's value won't change.