OK, fair enough, so we both agree that we don't need a god to appreciate life. It now seems that it wasn't a completely rididulous POV after all. Your call on the alleged sophistry clause to dodge the question in the first round evaporates just like that and it even seems we're getting in some dialogue here because you now try to express the added value of your god concept, which indeed is what this is about.
So we can figure out for ourselves that life is worthwile. No god is needed for that. You say that you appreciate something extra with god. But exactly what it is and how you can tell it's extra, is still pretty vague. You talk about achieving a healthy perspective. I am very curious how your god concept assures you keep a healthy perspective. A healthy perspective in my dictionary is one that is constantly challenged by reason and new facts about reality. To seek harmony with nature, culture and reason is what I do to get a healthy perspective. Probably I am all wrong about that. But how can a faith-based accomplish just that? When I was a believer I was told not to challenge dogma, to take god's mysterious ways as an answer (pretty much to all my questions). I'm sure I must have done something terribly wrong, possibly I cannot have been a true believer or my belief was a childish one in comparison with your theologically well wrought higher form of belief that guides you so well in a healthy perspective on your own account. But please elaborate on that here in simple words, my friend, so all christian kids in the world today may profit from it.
So we can figure out for ourselves that life is worthwile. No god is needed for that. You say that you appreciate something extra with god. But exactly what it is and how you can tell it's extra, is still pretty vague. You talk about achieving a healthy perspective. I am very curious how your god concept assures you keep a healthy perspective. A healthy perspective in my dictionary is one that is constantly challenged by reason and new facts about reality. To seek harmony with nature, culture and reason is what I do to get a healthy perspective. Probably I am all wrong about that. But how can a faith-based accomplish just that? When I was a believer I was told not to challenge dogma, to take god's mysterious ways as an answer (pretty much to all my questions). I'm sure I must have done something terribly wrong, possibly I cannot have been a true believer or my belief was a childish one in comparison with your theologically well wrought higher form of belief that guides you so well in a healthy perspective on your own account. But please elaborate on that here in simple words, my friend, so all christian kids in the world today may profit from it.
"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0