Genocide in the Old Testament

[ThomM]

Christian beliefs practically beg opponents to invoke Godwin. And it's absolutely deserved.

Have a talk with guys like Drich and John V, they'll be more than happy to tell you how wonderful mass murder can be if the right deity is directing it.

Capital punishment isn't murder. And do we need to look at humans' treatment of other species again? That usually shuts you up.

However - the god of the Bible committed MURDER on numerous occasions in those fairy tales - using the rules of the religion to define murder as well

Example- according to Isiah - a person is NOT responsible for the sins of his father and the father is not responsible for the sins of his son - ie - you are responsible ONLY for the sins you personally commit. In the Passover - the first born of egypt DID nothing personally to deserve to be killed - they are unceremoniously MURDERED by the god - even though they had no control over the Pharaoh of Egypt in the situation involved.

In every population - there are children and babies too young to actually personally commit a sin - because they have not reached the level of reason and responsibility - even the religion recognizes that to be true.
IN the past - when people's normal lifespan was less than 30 years - and children died young - as many as 20% of the population would have been under 5 years old - below that are accepted as the age of reason by religion.

And yet - the bible stories include a number of stories - the great flood - Soddom and Gamorrah - and others - where there is NO effort made to exclude the INNOCENT children from the killing by the god.

Theists might point out that they WOULD have sinned - but that only points to the fallacy of FREE WILL. IF a god is ALL KNOWING - then the ONLY thing that can happen is what the god knows - and knew LONG BEFORE anyone lived. In fact - the god is limited to doing ONLY what it already knows as well - since if it choose to do something different - it would also violate the concept of ALL knowing

NOW - a human can ONLY make a decision when it is alive -= and when it is time to make the decision - it apparently can only do what the god knows - and has NO ability to choose otherwise - without eliminating the concept of free will. NOW - if FREE WILL exists - that means that AT THE TIME OF MAKING A DECISION _ I MUST BE FREE TO CHOOSE from ALL available option and even choose something the god does not know. BUT all knowing means I cannot do that.

Again - the religion cannot be true and fulfill all of its statements