Genocide in the Old Testament

[Ryantology]

Huh? I’m agreeing that humans have rights over species with less intellectual capacity, and consistently concluding that god has rights over humans (plus rights as a creator which we don’t have over other species, but that’s not necessary in this argument). Where’s the hypocrisy? Go to the store. Look at the meat section and the pest control section. It is people who charge god with murder who are the hypocrites.

I don't agree that humans have rights to kill species with less intellectual capacity for reasons so stupid as "because I'm more intelligent than you are".

He’s not telling Isaiah to do this, he’s telling Isaiah it will happen. He is using nations against other nations. Not that this matters to you, just wanted to straighten that out.

Way to not address the point of it whole thing, one way or another.

And you know that how exactly? We can discuss the age of accountability doctrine if you like.

I know this, exactly, because it is inconsistent with God's clear desire to make those children suffer and die in terror.

It certainly does. Think about it - from god’s POV, there really is no such thing as killing, as on what we call death, people just move from one place to another.

If that justifies your love of genocide in your own mind, guess there's nothing I can say about it.

Bloody can be momentary. Atheists argue that temporal crimes are nothing compared to eternal torment. Temporal suffering is therefore nothing compared to eternal happiness. You can’t have it both ways.

This is the second time you've deliberately avoided the point. This is along reply, I wonder how many more times you'll do it. Because you always do.

No, as there would be no victims. “I think, therefore I am.” If omniscience means that God preprograms all the thoughts, then there is no “I” that thinks.

According to you, there are no victims already, because if God kills someone, it automatically means they deserve it.

No, perfection does not imply that any problem can be solved without killing.

It does not, if you are a being which derives enjoyment from the torment of lesser beings, as you clearly do.

False dichotomy. We could easily extend the bans on killing cuddly animals to ants. We don’t, because we don’t give a crap about ants.

Third time so far!

No, as noted, those under went to heaven.

So, why make their deaths so brutal and horrible? Why not just remove them and take them to heaven? Oh, wait, I guess that would be too consistent.

Bingo!

So you had no point to make? Okay.

Whiskey tango…? I have no idea what you’re trying to say.

What I'm trying to say is, why can't your amazing super God come up with solutions which are less brutal and destructive than what we mere humans devise, when (according to your beliefs) he can do so with no effort?

\No, my religion tells me that God can judge his creation, and I agree with that concept. I also believe that people deserve judgment based on observation of myself and others. You disagree. Most people do – that’s why the Bible is a story of a faithful remnant and a rebellious majority. People don’t like being judged.

Just as supporters of Nazis thought that Jews deserved what they got, right.

I apply my opponents’ own principles consistently. They resort to special pleading.[quote]
Four times!

[quote]Ah, equivocating believers with Nazis, a play right out of the atheist handbook. I don’t believe you put those two back to back. Well, yes, I do believe it, because you’re arguing more from emotion than reason.

Justifying psychopathic behaviors is not an action people associate with reason. Unless they, themselves, share in that psychological deficiency.

Sometimes, citing Godwin is justifiable, and you've done nothing but give me good reasons to do so.

Yes, for hypocrites like yourself, that is a problem.

I'm so sorry that you don't like the fact that I object to deliberate murder.

Oh wow, are you really adding in a stupidity defense? This is brilliant!

Animals less intelligent than humans, we don't look upon as murderers even when their kill methods are brutal. They don't know any better and lack the capacity to act differently. Brilliant, no. Apt? Absolutely.

Steaks are necessary in your imagination only. We eat them because they're tasty. Have you never heard of vegans? And where are the laws prohibiting use of pesticides unless it's really necessary?

Did I ever say steaks are necessary? And, do we kill cattle (or pests) because we enjoy watching the creatures die? Can we get a steak without killing a cow?

Are non-vegans therefore murderers?

Five times. Sadly, that's probably not even a record for you. What a fucking joke.