(September 19, 2013 at 12:16 pm)John V Wrote:(September 19, 2013 at 12:04 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Nothing, except the stench of theist deflection. How about you take off the cool shades and at least acknowledge the assessment?Sure. If you want to continue discussing your intellectual dishonesty, that's fine by me. I mentioned differences based on age or societal authority. I acknowledge that you twisted those to race. Happy?
(September 19, 2013 at 12:07 pm)max-greece Wrote: We have already established that we are using a subset of imperfections. Full compliance with them does not indicate perfection, non-compliance dictates a lack of perfection, however.After creation the Bible says it was all very good. Unless you can prove an imperfection in Adam at that point, he was a perfect human.
Quote:Oh - and as we have used logic to decide the bible is not accurate quoting humanity as having, in history, perfection is meaningless if you are getting that from the Bible.Huh?
(September 19, 2013 at 11:58 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: John V. could you please illustrate the standard by which god is worthy and we are not?A couple off the top of my head: God doesn't sin, we do. God is the creator, we are the creation.
So who then decided what is and is not sin?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
