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Morality in Nature
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RE: Morality in Nature
(September 23, 2013 at 8:30 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: If the only basis of morality in nature comes from survival of the fittest and "might makes right" then it's not really any kind of morality at all. Welcome to naturalism.


In social species, cooperation, altruism, kin selection are part of the survival mechanism. 'Fit' members of social species are naturally good at these attributes. Unfit members, get ejected from the social structure.

In Bonobos, our closest cousins, unfit members are often those that try to take over the group by using 'might makes right' tactics. Individuals that try this are usually violently ejected from the group.

Welcome to your misunderstanding of 'survival of the fittest'.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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Morality in Nature - by Jiggerj - September 23, 2013 at 4:17 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Silver - September 23, 2013 at 4:22 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Jiggerj - September 23, 2013 at 4:28 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Rahul - September 23, 2013 at 4:55 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Mystical - September 24, 2013 at 11:38 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Rahul - September 23, 2013 at 4:27 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Captain Colostomy - September 23, 2013 at 5:02 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Jiggerj - September 23, 2013 at 8:20 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Rahul - September 23, 2013 at 10:23 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Neo-Scholastic - September 23, 2013 at 8:30 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by MindForgedManacle - September 23, 2013 at 11:09 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 23, 2013 at 11:14 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Neo-Scholastic - September 24, 2013 at 7:46 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Esquilax - September 24, 2013 at 8:14 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by freedomfromforum - September 24, 2013 at 12:32 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by max-greece - September 24, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by freedomfromforum - September 24, 2013 at 12:46 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 24, 2013 at 6:46 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Jiggerj - September 24, 2013 at 6:50 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Dunno - September 24, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 24, 2013 at 7:14 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Whateverist - September 24, 2013 at 10:33 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 24, 2013 at 6:50 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Whateverist - September 24, 2013 at 7:24 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 24, 2013 at 8:41 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Whateverist - September 24, 2013 at 9:03 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 27, 2013 at 8:30 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - September 28, 2013 at 7:26 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 28, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - September 29, 2013 at 1:46 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 29, 2013 at 2:30 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - September 29, 2013 at 5:01 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 29, 2013 at 10:16 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - September 29, 2013 at 12:04 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 29, 2013 at 1:56 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - September 29, 2013 at 6:56 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 29, 2013 at 10:42 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - September 29, 2013 at 11:35 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 30, 2013 at 12:19 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - September 30, 2013 at 3:06 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 30, 2013 at 10:09 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Whateverist - September 28, 2013 at 10:05 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 28, 2013 at 10:21 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by max-greece - September 24, 2013 at 5:09 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Simon Moon - September 24, 2013 at 11:41 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Dunno - September 24, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Whateverist - September 23, 2013 at 8:33 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by gilbertc06 - September 24, 2013 at 4:46 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - September 24, 2013 at 5:55 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Dunno - September 24, 2013 at 12:35 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Darwinian - September 24, 2013 at 2:02 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Neo-Scholastic - September 25, 2013 at 8:32 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Esquilax - September 25, 2013 at 8:55 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Neo-Scholastic - September 25, 2013 at 7:42 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Whateverist - September 28, 2013 at 11:12 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 28, 2013 at 11:13 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by max-greece - September 30, 2013 at 3:42 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - September 30, 2013 at 4:46 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by max-greece - September 30, 2013 at 10:34 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Neo-Scholastic - September 30, 2013 at 9:13 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - September 30, 2013 at 10:11 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Walking Void - September 30, 2013 at 9:54 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Lumpymunk - September 30, 2013 at 11:34 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 1, 2013 at 12:34 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 1, 2013 at 2:09 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 1, 2013 at 3:09 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 1, 2013 at 3:36 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 1, 2013 at 7:19 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 1, 2013 at 9:38 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 1, 2013 at 10:01 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 2, 2013 at 1:16 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 2, 2013 at 3:02 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 2, 2013 at 3:10 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 2, 2013 at 3:39 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 2, 2013 at 3:44 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 2, 2013 at 8:08 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 2, 2013 at 9:36 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 2, 2013 at 11:13 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 2, 2013 at 9:38 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 2, 2013 at 10:07 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 2, 2013 at 10:16 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 2, 2013 at 10:29 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 2, 2013 at 10:51 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 3, 2013 at 4:31 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 3, 2013 at 5:57 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 3, 2013 at 7:18 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 3, 2013 at 7:36 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 3, 2013 at 10:30 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 4, 2013 at 2:04 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Angrboda - October 3, 2013 at 1:54 pm

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