(December 5, 2008 at 5:00 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote:(December 4, 2008 at 6:54 pm)Jason Jarred Wrote: Can we do some beating and silencing? Pleeeeeaaase?! It's so much fun, and I didn't get a chance to do any silencing last time, Kyuu got to do it but not me!
In a sense I'm right up there with that!
Some theists are quite interesting (Daystar maybe ... cough, cough, cough) but others won't change their mind ever. OK, I know theists will try to argue that we won't change our mind but I don't accept that to be true ... rational atheists tend to be science, reason, evidence based so they have a reasonable idea what will change their minds (in essence evidence and a reasonable interpretation of the same). But most theists seem to cling to their beliefs, as Dawkins puts it, without and and in many cases in spite of the evidence so there is no way this side of Uffern anyone is going to persuade them that they are wrong so the only things left are saying what we say for the lurkers (those who hang round forums like this but don't revel them,selves or are uncertain) or going for the tactical goal i.e. winning! If all you want to do is win then it really doesn't matter how you do it and ot seems to me "beating and silencing" is as good a result as any.
Kyu
See, this guy knows how message boards work! You don't see that very often.
As for me, I prefer not to think of my beliefs as a stagnant pool that reflects a distorted picture of myself and some ideaology under the murky waters beneath. If that makes any sense.
I believe in the Bible because over time it has proved itself to me again and again. I gladly accept when it proves me wrong. My 'beliefs' are not etched in stone, but it would take more than a science minded atheist who knows nothing of the Bible other than they have dismissed it out of hand to impress me.
All of this science stuff means very little to me, because it doesn't conflict with the Bible or it is no more sure of how things went down than the Bible appears to know.