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Obamacare part 2
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RE: Obamacare part 2
(September 27, 2013 at 7:32 pm)Manowar Wrote: Here is another problem I have with Obamacare, and I have said this on my other AHCA thread, Shouldn't someone who eats themselves to death or smokes themselves to death , etc have a huge premium and huge deductable? They don't give a damn and do what they want. people that are healthy have to pay for these losers, that is unfair.

manowar

Just because 1 out of 30 abuses the system, doesn't mean you shut down the system. You do not damn 29 to continued poverty and struggling and hopelessness of their situations just because $4 of your yearly taxes are going to help pay for some fat-ass to eat himself to an early grave unless you're a morally bankrupt individual. You're basically stating that Obamacare is bad because human whales and super-smokers will be on it along with everyone who genuinely needs it.

Honestly, you can't account for other peoples' choices. Such is the problem with having a wide selection of personal freedoms for a population; some of them are going to use their freedoms to be hedonistic self-destructive parasites. Just how it is. Nothing you can really do to differentiate between someone who is 500 lbs. from overeating, and someone who is 500 lbs. because of diabetes. The amount of money it would take to provide the clearly defined lines, and to enforce them, would far outnumber the costs of just letting such people be on the program.

If it becomes a pervasive problem, of course, where expenditure mandates removal of such individuals, then it'll happen, but for now, it's just not fiscally reasonable to start drawing even more lines and writing up even more litigation for such minor issues.
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Obamacare part 2 - by Manowar - September 26, 2013 at 5:04 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Something completely different - September 26, 2013 at 5:15 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Silver - September 26, 2013 at 5:20 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Something completely different - September 26, 2013 at 5:24 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by kılıç_mehmet - September 27, 2013 at 8:10 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by AtheistCreed - September 26, 2013 at 5:25 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Jackalope - September 26, 2013 at 5:33 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by AtheistCreed - September 26, 2013 at 5:40 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Jackalope - September 26, 2013 at 5:51 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Manowar - September 26, 2013 at 6:17 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Whateverist - September 29, 2013 at 8:00 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Raeven - September 26, 2013 at 5:46 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Minimalist - September 26, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Jackalope - September 26, 2013 at 6:31 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Minimalist - September 26, 2013 at 7:10 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Jackalope - September 26, 2013 at 7:35 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Creed of Heresy - September 26, 2013 at 7:16 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Creed of Heresy - September 26, 2013 at 7:38 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Jackalope - September 26, 2013 at 7:39 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Minimalist - September 26, 2013 at 7:40 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by AtheistCreed - September 26, 2013 at 7:47 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Manowar - September 26, 2013 at 7:54 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by AtheistCreed - September 26, 2013 at 8:01 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Creed of Heresy - September 26, 2013 at 8:06 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by AtheistCreed - September 26, 2013 at 8:08 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Raeven - September 26, 2013 at 8:29 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by AtheistCreed - September 26, 2013 at 10:04 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Raeven - September 26, 2013 at 10:52 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Creed of Heresy - September 27, 2013 at 12:28 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Jackalope - September 27, 2013 at 1:03 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Captain Colostomy - September 27, 2013 at 1:17 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Raeven - September 27, 2013 at 9:36 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by AtheistCreed - September 27, 2013 at 11:51 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Manowar - September 27, 2013 at 7:32 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Creed of Heresy - September 28, 2013 at 5:26 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Manowar - September 29, 2013 at 9:24 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by kılıç_mehmet - September 29, 2013 at 10:29 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Isun - September 27, 2013 at 9:40 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Jackalope - September 28, 2013 at 6:07 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Raeven - September 29, 2013 at 10:10 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Creed of Heresy - September 29, 2013 at 10:25 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Manowar - September 29, 2013 at 2:12 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Psykhronic - September 29, 2013 at 2:41 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Jackalope - September 29, 2013 at 2:34 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Raeven - September 29, 2013 at 2:50 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Manowar - September 29, 2013 at 3:38 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Creed of Heresy - September 29, 2013 at 7:13 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Raeven - September 29, 2013 at 3:44 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Jackalope - September 29, 2013 at 4:39 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Fidel_Castronaut - September 30, 2013 at 5:31 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Jackalope - September 30, 2013 at 6:02 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Fidel_Castronaut - October 1, 2013 at 1:09 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Manowar - September 29, 2013 at 6:38 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Jackalope - September 29, 2013 at 8:35 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by kılıç_mehmet - September 29, 2013 at 4:05 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by EB-S.canaria - September 29, 2013 at 9:28 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Tiberius - September 29, 2013 at 10:03 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Jackalope - September 29, 2013 at 10:23 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Creed of Heresy - September 29, 2013 at 11:24 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Tiberius - September 30, 2013 at 3:25 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Psykhronic - September 30, 2013 at 7:08 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Manowar - September 30, 2013 at 9:32 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Isun - September 30, 2013 at 11:05 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Manowar - September 30, 2013 at 12:42 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Whateverist - September 30, 2013 at 4:51 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Whateverist - September 30, 2013 at 10:25 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Raeven - September 30, 2013 at 11:48 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by downbeatplumb - September 30, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Manowar - September 30, 2013 at 4:00 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Manowar - September 30, 2013 at 5:11 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Jackalope - September 30, 2013 at 6:05 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Isun - September 30, 2013 at 5:19 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Manowar - September 30, 2013 at 7:22 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Jackalope - September 30, 2013 at 7:28 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Manowar - October 1, 2013 at 9:25 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Isun - October 1, 2013 at 8:28 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by wolf39us - October 1, 2013 at 10:06 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Isun - October 1, 2013 at 10:51 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Manowar - October 1, 2013 at 1:15 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Manowar - October 1, 2013 at 5:59 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Creed of Heresy - October 3, 2013 at 8:12 pm
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Lumpymunk - October 4, 2013 at 12:16 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Raeven - October 4, 2013 at 12:35 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Lumpymunk - October 4, 2013 at 12:38 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Creed of Heresy - October 4, 2013 at 12:41 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Lumpymunk - October 4, 2013 at 12:44 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Creed of Heresy - October 4, 2013 at 1:41 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Raeven - October 4, 2013 at 1:13 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Lumpymunk - October 4, 2013 at 1:30 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Creed of Heresy - October 4, 2013 at 1:50 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Raeven - October 4, 2013 at 1:39 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Lumpymunk - October 4, 2013 at 1:45 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Creed of Heresy - October 4, 2013 at 1:58 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Cato - October 4, 2013 at 2:32 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Raeven - October 4, 2013 at 1:54 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Lumpymunk - October 4, 2013 at 2:19 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Creed of Heresy - October 4, 2013 at 4:02 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Raeven - October 4, 2013 at 2:30 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Lumpymunk - October 4, 2013 at 2:31 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Lumpymunk - October 4, 2013 at 2:36 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Raeven - October 4, 2013 at 2:43 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Cato - October 4, 2013 at 3:31 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Raeven - October 4, 2013 at 10:40 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Lumpymunk - October 4, 2013 at 3:11 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by Raeven - October 4, 2013 at 3:24 am
RE: Obamacare part 2 - by AtheistCreed - October 5, 2013 at 5:34 pm

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