RE: Omniscience Argument Against God's Existence
September 28, 2013 at 7:03 pm
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2013 at 7:35 pm by Vincenzo Vinny G..)
(September 28, 2013 at 12:24 am)MindForgedManacle Wrote: I wasn't clear I guess. What I mean is that you cannot conceive of a being who can conceive of an incoherent idea (square-circle) or possess an incoherent attribute. I don't mean inconceivable to any subject in particular, but to all of them.I wanted to be sure of my reasoning, so I looked at it again, along with Noel's reasoning in the video.
In regards to UUs that are such for a particular subject(s): that doesn't rule out UUs. That simply means the being in question knows our UUs to be KKs, but it couldn't rule out any UUs to itself, could it?
Heh, you're making me less sure of the argument... well done.
If you want to verify it yourself, look at 4:50 in Noel's first video where he starts explaining his scenario. You will notice the following features:
1) A greater God who creates a lesser God
2) The lesser God has one or more UUs.
In this situation, the UU is only UU "to the lesser (created) God". It's not UU to the greater God. After all, the greater God explicitly created the lesser God to have UUs.
You cannot create a lesser being who has UUs unless these UUs are known to you, I think.
I'm sure it won't be a singular one-shot defeat of the argument. After all, Noel is a smart guy, and can revise his argument. Can you get in touch with him? Is he still active on youtube?
