Observations On Atheism Part II - God And The Bible

[Daystar]

Sorry I didn't see this post earlier, EvF, I can't always keep up with you.

Daystar. MY reason at least for caring about the content of the bible despite the fact I think its fairy tale is, basically:
1. The immorality and horror in the bible causing an awful lot of dogmatic fundamentalist 'faith' heads to do some terrible things they wouldn't normally do. They wouldn't do if they didn't think those things were actually justified to be righteous in the bible.

The same could be said for money and love and I don't see you complaining about those. People do stupid things and people put blame on things for stupid reasons. It is just as stupid to blame Dawkins book on the suicide of a young man as it is to blame the Bible and God for stupid things fundis do.

Anyway your argument makes no sense otherwise because I am sure you are not going to do those stupid things if you ever happen to read the Bible.

2. I don't believe in God. But I don't then say "God is evil". Of course not. I don't believe he exists.

Okay. So what?

What I DO say is. IF God exists. IF the God of the bible exists. If HE is our God. Then he's an extremely evil dictator. I don't say "He's evil". I say "IF such a God exists he's evil". So why believe in such a supremely evil God? And if you don't yet still believe in the bible. You obviously are interpreting it completely different to people who take it more literally. So you don't just believe what IT SAYS because you don't read it entirely literally.

Are you trying to suggest that I should not believe in the God of the Bible because you, who have never read the Bible, thinks that he is an evil dictator? Because it sounds like that is what you are really saying. Besides the obvious problem I would have with your LACK OF EVIDENCE that argument doesn't makes sense metaphorically because if an evil dictator stood before you and said you can live or die you would most likely choose to live.

So why DO you believe in God? Any reason? Any evidence? At all? How do you justify God with the bible when the God of the bible is blatantly evil? AND on the truth part. There's no evidence of him, no reason to believe. So why DO you believe?
I mean, c'mon!

I believe in God because his word the Bible is evidence to me that he exists and everything he said in it is true to date. Because I have studied it carefully and know what it says and can separate the myth from the fact. Because it makes sense to me and there hasn't been one sceptic who has been able to even come close to refuting it. Not one.

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I for one has had enough about "how great the bible is". It's not great at all!

Just as I have had enough about "how great science is." I don't even disagree with that and I have had enough of it.

I'd like to point out that the bible was written by people who believed the world is flat, and that the earth is the centre of the universe and that women were responsible for lightning striking churches.

Okay, there are two possible responses I can give to this. First of all I could make the simple request that you back that statement up, having discussed those sorts of criticisms with atheists many times I happen to know you can't, because they are not true. And secondly I could give you the benifit of the doubt and assume that the people that wrote the Bible did think those things and thus place all the more reason to believe the Bible is the word of God rather than men because he was telling them the exact oppisite of what you suggest they thought about those thinngs.

Bloody fucking hell you would think you guys could come up with at least a halfway decent argument. Where is your sense of logic and reason, did they beat it out of you in school? I'm uneducated and I can see that.

These people knew nothing! Everything they wrote was from a superstitious view. There was no scientific method back then.

Science is still catching up with the Bible. This is so lame, Ace. C'mon!

So why should I abandon all science today, with all it's data, evidence, research, study and countless great thinkers just because a book says so which was written by people who thought the world was flat!?

I already made the point of the flat earth, but as far as abandoning science I never suggested that! Would it be such an ominous task to not be so spoon fed by your science. I sure as hell wouldn't even allow the Bible to do that to me. I won't put up with that shit from nobody Science or God.

There is no such thing as a god. Since nothing says there is one.
(The bible does not class as evidence)

I've been down that road too many times here. If you can't define the simple word god you will continue in that sort of ignorance.