Obamacare part 2

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Just because 1 out of 30 abuses the system, doesn't mean you shut down the system. You do not damn 29 to continued poverty and struggling and hopelessness of their situations just because $4 of your yearly taxes are going to help pay for some fat-ass to eat himself to an early grave unless you're a morally bankrupt individual. You're basically stating that Obamacare is bad because human whales and super-smokers will be on it along with everyone who genuinely needs it.

Honestly, you can't account for other peoples' choices. Such is the problem with having a wide selection of personal freedoms for a population; some of them are going to use their freedoms to be hedonistic self-destructive parasites. Just how it is. Nothing you can really do to differentiate between someone who is 500 lbs. from overeating, and someone who is 500 lbs. because of diabetes. The amount of money it would take to provide the clearly defined lines, and to enforce them, would far outnumber the costs of just letting such people be on the program.

If it becomes a pervasive problem, of course, where expenditure mandates removal of such individuals, then it'll happen, but for now, it's just not fiscally reasonable to start drawing even more lines and writing up even more litigation for such minor issues.

I never go to doctors, ever. I have not been to a doctor for anything since 89 or 1990 so this bothers me more than it would you or someone else. If you are a bad driver you have to pay higher premiums or a big deductable, so why not this? That would be fair. I have heard it said that socialism punishes hard work. I workout a lot and not a day goes by when i don't count calories or my macros but I have to pay for lazy fat asses. You may not agree with me but can you see my point? If everyone thought like me we would not have a problem and healthcare would cost a fraction of what it does now but people don't give a F@#
Manowar

Well,how can one abuse a truly national healthcare system? No one goes to a doctor unless they really have to.
I say that a fully nationalized healthcare system would be of a better quality, and of lesser burden to the people.

And of course there is the question of how healthy the American population is. Even if a person is fat as fuck, or is a chain smoker, bound to get lung cancer, I don't think that really fits into abuse though.
What fits into abuse is that unhealthy food habits continue to be propagated in the US.

Of course, everyone must pay heed to a public contract when public healthcare systems are set in motion. That is, not eating or smoking themselves to death. Not being fat is really not a hard thing to do. You don't need to visit a gym in order not to be fat.
Lazy fat asses on the other hand are a social problem, not an individual problem, they should be treated on the social scale, which is done by proper social engineering.
How? Schools, of course. Every student in a school should be accountable of being involved in at least one type of sports according to their ability.
Students must be taught to eat good food, and be healthy. On the other hand, today's America gives people the right to be fat, and well, some even propagate that being fat should be considered "okay".
However from what I heard, unhealthy food in the US is easier to get to than healthy food is. So what can you do?