[quote='Vincenzo "Vinny" G.' pid='514690' dateline='1380564700']
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I actually have read the bible.
I'll grant you might not need external justification. But I imagine if you are rational you would need internal justification.
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Or you might not think about it at all. Its not important after all.
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In other words, you don't have to prove that your beliefs are rational to me. But you must believe they are rational at minimum.[/quote]
No the minimum is not to consider it at all.
[quote] And believing they are rational requires a reason to believe that they are.[/quote]
Who is the best team in the NFL?
You know what, I don't care.
See how that works.
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If you have no justification whatsoever, you are worse off than kneejerk Christians who have weak justifications.
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But I do have reasons.
The reason people used to believe in god is because they had no understanding of the way the universe really worked and injected dieties to try and pretend they weren't ignorant.
There is no need for this childish thinking anymore.
I am just pointing out that not every atheist has to have a reasoned argument to be so.
You seem to be one of those people who like to ladle attributes to atheism that aren't required.
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I actually have read the bible.

I'll grant you might not need external justification. But I imagine if you are rational you would need internal justification.
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Or you might not think about it at all. Its not important after all.
[quote]
In other words, you don't have to prove that your beliefs are rational to me. But you must believe they are rational at minimum.[/quote]
No the minimum is not to consider it at all.
[quote] And believing they are rational requires a reason to believe that they are.[/quote]
Who is the best team in the NFL?
You know what, I don't care.
See how that works.
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If you have no justification whatsoever, you are worse off than kneejerk Christians who have weak justifications.
[/quote]
But I do have reasons.
The reason people used to believe in god is because they had no understanding of the way the universe really worked and injected dieties to try and pretend they weren't ignorant.
There is no need for this childish thinking anymore.
I am just pointing out that not every atheist has to have a reasoned argument to be so.
You seem to be one of those people who like to ladle attributes to atheism that aren't required.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.