(October 1, 2013 at 10:01 pm)bennyboy Wrote: I've course I do. I'm not a determinist, or a physical monist. I believe in actual mind and actual free will.
And why do you think that determinists and physical monists don't believe in single entities or actual minds or actual free-will?
(October 1, 2013 at 10:01 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Except that it's neither free nor will.
Except that it is.
(October 1, 2013 at 10:01 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Yes, because determinism has wiggle-room, so that the murder itself isn't proof enough that it had to happen. So where does this wiggle-room come from? Space pixies?
(October 1, 2013 at 10:01 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Okay, so if you blow a CPU, and the computer doesn't function, you'd say, "Goddamned computer doesn't work" and throw out the whole thing, right? Because that's what punishing an individual is-- the entirety of the individual didn't cause a murder.
Except for the fact that the computer is not an agent so the concept of punishment does not apply here.
(October 1, 2013 at 10:01 pm)bennyboy Wrote: What matters isn't whether the self exists. What matters is whether it is a byproduct of deterministic processes. If it is, then the apparent agency of the self is irrelevant-- it is a single experience of multiple functions, none of which the self has control over.
The term "byproduct" implies that there is another primary product. Which is not my view.
The self is a product of deterministic processes. Period. The part that the self plays in that deterministic process is one of agency and control - which is why its existence and function are very much relevant.
