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Morality in Nature
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RE: Morality in Nature
(October 2, 2013 at 3:44 am)genkaus Wrote:
(October 2, 2013 at 3:39 am)bennyboy Wrote: Sure it does. Some cars have complex computers monitoring each wheel, revs, fuel consumption, etc. etc. Some of the more advanced ones even have some learning capability-- automatically adjusting the suspension suiting the driving styles of individual drivers, etc.

Would you say these cars have selves and free wills?

No, because there is still no self-awareness function. Once you figure out how to install those, then yes.
You'll have to define self-awareness, because the car is monitoring both its environment and itself, and modifying its behavior to meet specific goals. It is doing the FUNCTIONS that are ascribed to awareness, making it (presumably) a philosophical zombie by your definition of awareness.

So in what way is the car not showing awareness in its deterministic, complex interactions with the environment, when a human is?
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Morality in Nature - by Jiggerj - September 23, 2013 at 4:17 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Paraselene - September 23, 2013 at 4:22 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Jiggerj - September 23, 2013 at 4:28 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Rahul - September 23, 2013 at 4:55 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Mystical - September 24, 2013 at 11:38 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Rahul - September 23, 2013 at 4:27 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Captain Colostomy - September 23, 2013 at 5:02 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Jiggerj - September 23, 2013 at 8:20 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Rahul - September 23, 2013 at 10:23 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Neo-Scholastic - September 23, 2013 at 8:30 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by MindForgedManacle - September 23, 2013 at 11:09 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 23, 2013 at 11:14 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Neo-Scholastic - September 24, 2013 at 7:46 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Esquilax - September 24, 2013 at 8:14 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by freedomfromforum - September 24, 2013 at 12:32 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by max-greece - September 24, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by freedomfromforum - September 24, 2013 at 12:46 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 24, 2013 at 6:46 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Jiggerj - September 24, 2013 at 6:50 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Dunno - September 24, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 24, 2013 at 7:14 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Whateverist - September 24, 2013 at 10:33 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 24, 2013 at 6:50 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Whateverist - September 24, 2013 at 7:24 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 24, 2013 at 8:41 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Whateverist - September 24, 2013 at 9:03 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 27, 2013 at 8:30 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - September 28, 2013 at 7:26 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 28, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - September 29, 2013 at 1:46 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 29, 2013 at 2:30 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - September 29, 2013 at 5:01 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 29, 2013 at 10:16 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - September 29, 2013 at 12:04 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 29, 2013 at 1:56 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - September 29, 2013 at 6:56 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 29, 2013 at 10:42 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - September 29, 2013 at 11:35 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 30, 2013 at 12:19 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - September 30, 2013 at 3:06 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 30, 2013 at 10:09 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Whateverist - September 28, 2013 at 10:05 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 28, 2013 at 10:21 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by max-greece - September 24, 2013 at 5:09 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Simon Moon - September 24, 2013 at 11:41 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Dunno - September 24, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Whateverist - September 23, 2013 at 8:33 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by gilbertc06 - September 24, 2013 at 4:46 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - September 24, 2013 at 5:55 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Dunno - September 24, 2013 at 12:35 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Darwinian - September 24, 2013 at 2:02 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Neo-Scholastic - September 25, 2013 at 8:32 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Esquilax - September 25, 2013 at 8:55 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Neo-Scholastic - September 25, 2013 at 7:42 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by Whateverist - September 28, 2013 at 11:12 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - September 28, 2013 at 11:13 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by max-greece - September 30, 2013 at 3:42 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - September 30, 2013 at 4:46 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by max-greece - September 30, 2013 at 10:34 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Neo-Scholastic - September 30, 2013 at 9:13 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - September 30, 2013 at 10:11 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Walking Void - September 30, 2013 at 9:54 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Lumpymunk - September 30, 2013 at 11:34 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 1, 2013 at 12:34 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 1, 2013 at 2:09 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 1, 2013 at 3:09 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 1, 2013 at 3:36 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 1, 2013 at 7:19 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 1, 2013 at 9:38 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 1, 2013 at 10:01 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 2, 2013 at 1:16 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 2, 2013 at 3:02 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 2, 2013 at 3:10 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 2, 2013 at 3:39 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 2, 2013 at 3:44 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 2, 2013 at 8:08 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 2, 2013 at 9:36 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 2, 2013 at 11:13 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 2, 2013 at 9:38 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 2, 2013 at 10:07 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 2, 2013 at 10:16 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 2, 2013 at 10:29 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 2, 2013 at 10:51 pm
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 3, 2013 at 4:31 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 3, 2013 at 5:57 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 3, 2013 at 7:18 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 3, 2013 at 7:36 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by bennyboy - October 3, 2013 at 10:30 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by genkaus - October 4, 2013 at 2:04 am
RE: Morality in Nature - by Angrboda - October 3, 2013 at 1:54 pm

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