(October 3, 2013 at 7:18 am)bennyboy Wrote: Okay. At least you're consistent.
I accept moral ideas, including those of punishment, exactly because I don't accept the deterministic definition of free will, and of self, that you do. I take choices to be real things, not labels for reducing a complex environment down to a single behavioral impulse.
I don't think your position makes sense. To accept a determinist view, in which a person ultimately has a choice of 1 option in every scenario, means that morality has no meaning.
Fair enough. I don't think your view of free-will and morality makes sense either. The idea that morality can only apply to non-deterministic choices would require that there was no specific cause or reason behind the choice and we know from experience that that is not the case with our choices.
(October 3, 2013 at 7:18 am)bennyboy Wrote: I would hope that your view on crime fighting is a statistical one, a la Minority Report-- because no other stance makes sense GIVEN determinism.
Don't know about that. Never seen the movie.