(October 4, 2013 at 12:44 am)Lumpymunk Wrote: Sounds like you're fishing for an excuse when you have no evidence based means of explaining away an inconvenient consequence of the legislation.
Sounds like you're about to get smacked in the face with some evidence. Don't accuse me of fishing, man, I do my damn research, I just quoted an entire friggin' article at Manowar on this very topic, do you really think I'm gonna be pulling shit out of my ass? If this was an issue, and if I had quoted this aspect, why didn't YOU read it? Did you not pay attention to my post?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obamacare#E...king_hours
Allow me to quote. You can read the cited sources if you would like.
Quote:As of yet, however, only a small percent of companies have shifted their workforce towards more part-time hours (4% in a survey from the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis). And labor market experts note that such shifts are not clearly attributable to the implementation of the ACA: pre-existing, long-term trends in working hours, and the effects of the Great Recession correlate with part-time working hour patterns. The impact of this provision on employer’s decision-making is partially offset by other factors: offering healthcare helps attract and retain employees, while increasing productivity and reducing absenteeism; and to trade a smaller full-time workforce for a larger part-time work force carries costs of training and administration for a business. In addition, the amount of employers with over 50 employees is relatively small, and over 90% of them already offer insurance, so changes in employer plans from this provision are expected to be small. Workers who do not receive insurance from an employer plan will still be able to purchase insurance on the exchanges.
If anything the ones who are fishing for excuses are the businesses trying to hide their teetering fiscal state, and the people who desperately want to believe Obamacare will be the straw that breaks the nation's back so that they can blame all the problems on the liberals and not the shitty, long-enduring conservative policies of the last 40 years.
(October 4, 2013 at 12:44 am)Lumpymunk Wrote: Some companies are actually promoting their part timers to full time... like Disney.
http://www.doctordisney.com/2013/10/03/o...full-time/
These are in the minority.
Kind of like how the people putting full-timers to part-timers is in the minority? You know, the 4%?
(October 4, 2013 at 12:44 am)Lumpymunk Wrote: The majority look at the $2000 penalty per employee over 30 as the motivating factor... which would not be there otherwise.
That $2000 penalty is not some fabrication.
It's not Bullshit.
Yeah, and you know how they can deal with it? A: If they're a small business dealing with this, cover their employees with health insurance at the final rate of about $137 a person, or, if they're a large corporation, just give their fucking employees health coverage already. Besides, it's not like this shit ever comes free anyway, the companies almost always deduct SOME of your paycheck to cover part of the insurance. So, yes, it's Bullshit.
(October 4, 2013 at 12:44 am)Lumpymunk Wrote: Companies want to make money, and they want their business to boom. If they can do that with full-time 40 hour workers great... but if the ACA jacks up the cost of that labor instantly (as it did a few days ago) that will be the primary factor for restructuring.
Stop trying to minimize it.
Stop trying to cover the asses of a bunch of rich fuckheads who can afford to pay out tens of millions of dollars to a group of 30 executives in bonuses but start screaming hysterically at the notion of giving their workers some benefits. If they can't afford the minimal price tag it will cost to get their employees on basic medical coverage then they're completely insolvent and on the verge of fiscal collapse. A company with 150 full timer workers will be paying to the tune of $40,000 total in medical coverage yearly at average. If their company REALLY can't spare $40k to treat their employees less like they're working in a developing world and more like the country where SUPPOSEDLY doing a hard day's work is supposed to reward you appropriately, then that company's about to fucking collapse. Shed me a tear for the poor widdle corportations fow the big bayud guvunmint taking their widdle bonus checks away a bit.
Seriously, you just posted a link showing that the cost of labor HAS NOT been jacked up yet, and won't be until 2015, and yet companies are cutting people two years in advance SUPPOSEDLY in preparation for rising labor costs that not only could they EASILY handle anyway, but aren't even set in stone to happen anyway!
LET ME GUESS. Tea-party supporter?
