rational naturalism is impossible!

[pocaracas]

Excuses, excuses, excuses... I guess that's why they call it apologia...
If such a god does in fact exist AND does not want us to actually know about it, then how do you know about it?
How does anyone know about it?
Why would I be required to believe what you people say about it?
Love from gullibility?... no, thank you.

I didn't say that... you're straw manning. I said God doesn't want to make his existence undeniable to everyone.

Oh... so only a few chosen can be made aware of the reality of that entity?
How can you make sure that those chosen are not bullshitting you?
How can you make sure you're not being conned?
How can you be sure you're not indoctrinated into a lie?

to be more accurate, he doesn't want to gather followers by convincing them of his existence. how do we know anything about him? because he reveals it in the bible.

And how did the bible come to be?
MEN wrote it.

I would say there's good enough evidence supporting the bible's claims, though of course it's not undeniable. but that's the point. the bible isn't meant to necessarily convince people of his existence, but to tell us about him once we're convinced.

Oh ye of little sight!
That is exactly the same sort of evidence that exists to support the qur'an... or any other "holy" book that MEN have written, or may write in the future.
I find it unbelievable that so many people have a hard time discerning this huge detail.
It's like the bible is the only book claiming that there is a god.... -.-'