RE: Why You Should Be Atheist
October 11, 2013 at 7:59 pm
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2013 at 8:26 pm by Vincenzo Vinny G..)
(October 11, 2013 at 7:30 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(October 11, 2013 at 7:26 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: I've tried to discuss my views before, but I usually hit a wall of ignorance with many of the atheists around here. They lack familiarity with science, philosophy, epistemology, logic, mathematics, and many of the fields that my views build on. Given their lack of familiarity, their responses amount to hysterical skepticism firing blindly in all directions, like one recent poster who dismissed logic as a means of arriving at knowledge "as a house of cards". Doesn't strike me as a worthwhile pursuit unless people are capable of exercising critical thinking skills and looking new things up to learn about them.
Explaining the rigorous use of reason to an atheist is like explaining quantum mechanics to the amish.
Why the hell did you want me to express my post as a request if you weren't going to answer it?
Could you at least point me to a thread where you already went over your views?
Because I want to answer it?
Ideally to someone who's like "Okay, I see how x fits in with y, but I'm skeptical of z because of a, b, and c, and therefore I disagree with your conclusion."
versus
"FILOSOFY IS KRAP OK? HURRRRR HAHA LOL GOD SUX LOLOL"
I mean, the difference is subtle, but if you look carefully, you'll see it's there.
(October 11, 2013 at 7:42 pm)Faith No More Wrote:(October 11, 2013 at 7:26 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: I've tried to discuss my views before, but I usually hit a wall of ignorance with many of the atheists around here. They lack familiarity with science, philosophy, epistemology, logic, mathematics, and many of the fields that my views build on. Given their lack of familiarity, their responses amount to hysterical skepticism firing blindly in all directions, like one recent poster who dismissed logic as a means of arriving at knowledge "as a house of cards". Doesn't strike me as a worthwhile pursuit unless people are capable of exercising critical thinking skills and looking new things up to learn about them.Just because some people won't get it, doesn't mean it won't lead to fruitful discussion, as long as those that talk out of their ass are ignored. As you can see, this forum lacks rigorous intellectual discussions, which is what you claim to be after, so try adding something positive here.
Explaining the rigorous use of reason to an atheist is like explaining quantum mechanics to the amish.
Rigorous intellectual discussion goes against the very identity of this forum. Snide mockery, shit-talking, personal attacks and any old ignorance is grafted into the DNA of this place, for better or for worse.
Trying to add something positive is like trying to swim up Niagara falls.
(October 11, 2013 at 7:38 pm)Deidre32 Wrote:(October 11, 2013 at 7:26 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: I've tried to discuss my views before, but I usually hit a wall of ignorance with many of the atheists around here. They lack familiarity with science, philosophy, epistemology, logic, mathematics, and many of the fields that my views build on.
If you are religious, logic has nothing to do with it. Just saying. You might be mystified by your own belief system, but that doesn't equate to logic. Atheists don't lack famiiarity with science, philosophy, math, etc. Is this how you defend your faith? I can see why you get frustrated. lol I was once a believer, and honestly, you can't convince an atheist of your beliefs, just like an atheist will never be able to convince you why what you believe, is a fantasy or an idea.
But, I wouldn't combat atheists in the manner you're doing, because you are wrong. Atheists are very smart, very astute in most of the subjects you name, so painting them as ignorant, implies that you are somehow superior to us.
I know you don't mean to come across like that but that's sort of how it sounds.
Deidre, you're no atheist. You're an agnostic.
And even if you are an atheist, you're not "that" type of atheist. Right?