RE: Ethics
October 14, 2013 at 4:46 pm
(This post was last modified: October 14, 2013 at 4:56 pm by Dunno.)
Yes, religion is a tool for controlling people. But I'm not wrong, it's about enforcing ethics on people. And don't tell me you disagree with my ethics, I didn't fully explain them to you. As sure as the cops enforce the law, the religious enforce the law of the supernatural, and these laws are meant to be ethical truths. I'm sorry but your argument is uneducated. You say that religion is about killing the infidels, when that's against the law of most religions. If a person wants to kill infidels, it most likely isn't alright with their religion. I'll agree with you that there isn't a god but I'm not going to agree with you that religion somehow tells people to do bad stuff, and is bad, most religious people see their faith as guidance on how to lead a good life, and the majority rules.
I'm right, and you're wrong, bashing religions as if they want to harm people when all they ever do is go on and on about morality and being good to people, if a person sets out to do bad, then he's not doing religious work, even if they do it in the name of religion.
There's a difference between politics and religion, however both have power. Think of a chess board. A king, queen, bishop, knight, rook, and pawns. What is the job of the bishop? It is to be an ethical voice in the ear of the ruthless king who sets out to destroy the other king. Of course, in the game the bishop moves diagonally and also kills.
So if you're complaining about diagonal moves, remember that for the most part, it is because people do not understand ethics.
The church doesn't do that. Followers do that. The worst thing a priest would ever do to you is tell you you're going to hell. The enforcers of religion are bound to follow their ethical rules very strictly. They can't break the ten commandments.
I'm right, and you're wrong, bashing religions as if they want to harm people when all they ever do is go on and on about morality and being good to people, if a person sets out to do bad, then he's not doing religious work, even if they do it in the name of religion.
There's a difference between politics and religion, however both have power. Think of a chess board. A king, queen, bishop, knight, rook, and pawns. What is the job of the bishop? It is to be an ethical voice in the ear of the ruthless king who sets out to destroy the other king. Of course, in the game the bishop moves diagonally and also kills.
So if you're complaining about diagonal moves, remember that for the most part, it is because people do not understand ethics.
(October 14, 2013 at 1:47 pm)Raeven Wrote: I think it is you who are wrong. Since most here believe that religion is a construct of people, then religion as it is practiced by those people IS the problem. For the very few church cultures that ONLY engage in creating a space for like-minded people to hang out, share cakes and have a gossip (I can't think of ANY that confine their activities to just these things, can you?), there are so many more who use their beliefs to create cultural divisions, assert moral superiority -- hell, superiority, period -- advance political agendas, kill and torture others, fight wars and generally impose their "ethics" on the rest of us. What the hell is ethical about THAT?
The church doesn't do that. Followers do that. The worst thing a priest would ever do to you is tell you you're going to hell. The enforcers of religion are bound to follow their ethical rules very strictly. They can't break the ten commandments.
