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Abortion and ethics
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Abortion and ethics
This is my first post. Something I am eager to discuss with fellow atheists, but I can't since I basically know none in real life. What are your views on abortion? Do you support it (both ethically and in terms of legality, you can agree with legality and not with the ethics or the other way around)? And if so, why? Is there any particular situation in which you support abortion more firmly (such as rape or other exceptional cases)? I'd like to hear the opinions of atheist on this.
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#2
RE: Abortion and ethics
Well you can hear an opinion from an atheist this on this, we're nowhere near monolithic on this (or any) issue.

For me, I don't really care anything about the "personhood" or "when does life start arguments. My opinion falls firmly on the bodily autonomy issue. You cannot force someone to be the life support system for another human (or bundle of cells/zygote/fetus etc) against their will. You can't force someone to give a kidney to a toddler or force a mother to be the incubator for an unborn child or fetus.

So often I hear people say "unborn children deserve the same rights as everyone else". Fine, I agree, and nobody else has the right to forcibly use another human's body against their will, so neither should the unborn.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#3
RE: Abortion and ethics
Why would anyone be against killing babies?!? They're sooooooo fucking tasty!

Welcome to the forums.

An intro thread might be a good idea to let people get to know you a bit.
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#4
RE: Abortion and ethics
Thanks, I didn't even remember doing so, I'll do it right away. Have a good night (or day)
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#5
RE: Abortion and ethics
I find the Christian's views on life and personhood to be at odds with Scripture (notably Genesis 2:7). Should 'sincerity of belief' ever rise as an issue to national prominence, it would make an for an interesting discussion with the protesters from an Inerrant and Literalist perspective. Why do THEY know better than God ??

Helping them to realize they are falsifying their own religion is a rather fun pastime . . .



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#6
RE: Abortion and ethics
Psalm 127;3 Children are a gift from the LORD; they are a reward from him.

People started aborting after this verse came to light.
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#7
RE: Abortion and ethics
Children, not fetuses.

For a religion OCD on trifling details, seems like you might have worked that one out on your own.



If you want, review Genesis 2:7 and witness to us why it doesn't mean what it so clearly says.
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#8
RE: Abortion and ethics
I'm against abortion, unless it's very early (which most abortions are), or if the mother's life is in danger. Republicans like to shout that abortion is wrong, but from what I've heard the foster care and adoption agencies are underfunded. So it's like they care more about the unborn than the poor that are already alive.
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10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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RE: Abortion and ethics
(June 28, 2014 at 11:10 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: Psalm 127;3 Children are a gift from the LORD; they are a reward from him.

People started aborting after this verse came to light.

Um, what do you mean after this verse came to light. Are there Bible verses hidden?
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#10
RE: Abortion and ethics
And a very large driver in abortion today is a severe malformation of the fetus. I'd have to have solid brass ones to MAKE a couple continue a pregnancy with a grotesque anomaly looming.
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