Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: May 29, 2024, 3:51 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Calling Out Demolition Deniers
#58
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers
(October 19, 2013 at 8:48 am)Rahul Wrote: Has any of these conspiracy theorists about 9/11 mentioned a motive for the US to attack itself and blame the Middle Eastern countries?

I know that many people seem to base any US action in the Middle East to be all about oil, but why do we need to attack Afghanistan or Iraq for oil? We don't need any oil from them. We buy most of our oil from Canada and Latin America. The only oil we buy from the Middle East in any significant amount is from Saudi Arabia.

No, it is not just about oil, as I will show below.

Firstly, it is already known that the US planned attacks on Afghanistan at least weeks before September 11.

Quote:A former Pakistani diplomat has told the BBC that the US was planning military action against Osama Bin Laden and the Taleban even before last week's attacks.

Niaz Naik, a former Pakistani Foreign Secretary, was told by senior American officials in mid-July that military action against Afghanistan would go ahead by the middle of October.

Mr Naik told the BBC that at the meeting the US representatives told him that unless Bin Laden was handed over swiftly America would take military action to kill or capture both Bin Laden and the Taleban leader, Mullah Omar.

The wider objective, according to Mr Naik, would be to topple the Taleban regime and install a transitional government of moderate Afghans in its place - possibly under the leadership of the former Afghan King Zahir Shah.

...

He said that he was in no doubt that after the World Trade Center bombings this pre-existing US plan had been built upon and would be implemented within two or three weeks.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1550366.stm


I do believe one of the motivations was oil ...

Quote:This conclusion is reinforced by reports indicating that the United States had made the decision to invade Afghanistan two months before the 9/11 attacks. At least part of the background to this decision was the United States’ long-time support for UNOCAL’s proposed pipeline, which would transport oil and natural gas from the Caspian Sea region to the Indian Ocean through Afghanistan and Pakistan. This project had been stymied through the 1990s because of the civil war that had been going on in Afghanistan since the Soviet withdrawal in 1989.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/did-9-11-ju...stan/19891


But again, this oil pipeline may be just a very small part of the story.

There could have been yet even a bigger and a more secretive reason for starting a war in Afghanistan which is probably that the CIA and the Pentagon officials had knowledge about the existence of a huge amount of mineral deposits and rare-earth metals in the country, and so then they thought they could make a good profit out of it. See the article below.

Quote:WASHINGTON — The United States has discovered nearly $1 trillion in untapped mineral deposits in Afghanistan, far beyond any previously known reserves and enough to fundamentally alter the Afghan economy and perhaps the Afghan war itself, according to senior American government officials.

The previously unknown deposits — including huge veins of iron, copper, cobalt, gold and critical industrial metals like lithium — are so big and include so many minerals that are essential to modern industry that Afghanistan could eventually be transformed into one of the most important mining centers in the world, the United States officials believe.

An internal Pentagon memo, for example, states that Afghanistan could become the "Saudi Arabia of lithium," a key raw material in the manufacture of batteries for laptops and BlackBerrys.

...

"There is stunning potential here," Gen. David H. Petraeus, commander of the United States Central Command, said in an interview on Saturday. "There are a lot of ifs, of course, but I think potentially it is hugely significant."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/....html?_r=0


And it doesn't stop there; it gets even darker. The government's reason for invasion could have been much, much bigger than all the above.

Quote:Massive attention has now been given - and rightly so - to the reasons why Britain went to war against Iraq. But far too little attention has focused on why the US went to war, and that throws light on British motives too. The conventional explanation is that after the Twin Towers were hit, retaliation against al-Qaida bases in Afghanistan was a natural first step in launching a global war against terrorism. Then, because Saddam Hussein was alleged by the US and UK governments to retain weapons of mass destruction, the war could be extended to Iraq as well. However this theory does not fit all the facts. The truth may be a great deal murkier.

We now know that a blueprint for the creation of a global Pax Americana was drawn up for Dick Cheney (now vice-president), Donald Rumsfeld (defence secretary), Paul Wolfowitz (Rumsfeld's deputy), Jeb Bush (George Bush's younger brother) and Lewis Libby (Cheney's chief of staff). The document, entitled Rebuilding America's Defences, was written in September 2000 by the neoconservative think tank, Project for the New American Century (PNAC).

The plan shows Bush's cabinet intended to take military control of the Gulf region whether or not Saddam Hussein was in power. It says "while the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein."

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003...ber11.iraq






And as soon as the government has established its cynical plans in the Middle East, an attack occurs in America, just in time to gain public support for a war.

Oh woops! ... all this stuff is just a coincidence, guys. Never mind.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 17, 2013 at 8:15 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 17, 2013 at 8:16 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 18, 2013 at 5:30 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Minimalist - October 17, 2013 at 8:47 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Autumnlicious - October 17, 2013 at 9:50 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by professor - October 17, 2013 at 9:53 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Faith No More - October 18, 2013 at 6:19 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Zazzy - October 17, 2013 at 10:00 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 18, 2013 at 5:43 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Creed of Heresy - October 17, 2013 at 10:24 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Chas - October 17, 2013 at 10:33 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Creed of Heresy - October 17, 2013 at 10:44 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Doubting Thomas - October 18, 2013 at 12:50 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Autumnlicious - October 17, 2013 at 11:01 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Captain Colostomy - October 18, 2013 at 8:07 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by bladevalant546 - October 18, 2013 at 9:24 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Whateverist - October 18, 2013 at 9:28 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by LastPoet - October 18, 2013 at 10:13 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Minimalist - October 18, 2013 at 10:46 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Doubting Thomas - October 18, 2013 at 1:00 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by freedomfromforum - October 18, 2013 at 11:25 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Psykhronic - October 18, 2013 at 11:46 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by professor - October 18, 2013 at 12:19 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Mister Agenda - October 18, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by TheBeardedDude - October 18, 2013 at 12:21 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by downbeatplumb - October 18, 2013 at 1:47 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Minimalist - October 18, 2013 at 12:59 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by TheBeardedDude - October 18, 2013 at 12:59 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Esquilax - October 19, 2013 at 4:04 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by LastPoet - October 18, 2013 at 1:44 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by TheBeardedDude - October 18, 2013 at 1:50 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by downbeatplumb - October 18, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by LastPoet - October 18, 2013 at 1:54 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Brian37 - October 18, 2013 at 3:15 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 18, 2013 at 3:55 pm
Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Cinjin - October 18, 2013 at 4:41 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Autumnlicious - October 18, 2013 at 5:02 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 18, 2013 at 9:23 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Whateverist - October 18, 2013 at 10:15 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Cato - October 19, 2013 at 12:51 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 19, 2013 at 8:09 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Brian37 - October 19, 2013 at 4:33 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 19, 2013 at 4:56 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Brian37 - October 19, 2013 at 8:11 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rahul - October 19, 2013 at 12:05 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Tiberius - October 19, 2013 at 2:16 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by professor - October 18, 2013 at 7:11 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Faith No More - October 18, 2013 at 7:22 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Autumnlicious - October 18, 2013 at 7:24 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Autumnlicious - October 19, 2013 at 12:50 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Dragonetti - October 19, 2013 at 1:16 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Minimalist - October 19, 2013 at 1:25 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by LastPoet - October 19, 2013 at 2:01 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 19, 2013 at 6:58 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Cato - October 19, 2013 at 1:31 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Creed of Heresy - October 19, 2013 at 3:26 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 19, 2013 at 7:12 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by downbeatplumb - October 19, 2013 at 8:32 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rahul - October 19, 2013 at 8:48 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 19, 2013 at 4:32 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Angrboda - October 19, 2013 at 5:54 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Chas - October 19, 2013 at 6:43 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Autumnlicious - October 19, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by bladevalant546 - October 19, 2013 at 8:03 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 20, 2013 at 12:06 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 20, 2013 at 12:05 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Chas - October 20, 2013 at 8:42 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Creed of Heresy - October 20, 2013 at 3:25 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Brian37 - October 20, 2013 at 6:33 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Angrboda - October 20, 2013 at 8:19 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by TheBeardedDude - October 20, 2013 at 9:05 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rahul - October 20, 2013 at 9:20 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Minimalist - October 21, 2013 at 1:07 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Tiberius - October 21, 2013 at 4:25 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by rexbeccarox - October 21, 2013 at 5:04 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Tiberius - October 22, 2013 at 1:55 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 22, 2013 at 5:32 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Brian37 - October 22, 2013 at 7:58 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Aractus - October 22, 2013 at 4:29 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 22, 2013 at 5:23 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Chas - October 22, 2013 at 9:18 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 22, 2013 at 5:24 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Aractus - October 23, 2013 at 7:15 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by LastPoet - October 23, 2013 at 7:42 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Aractus - October 23, 2013 at 8:44 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Doubting Thomas - October 23, 2013 at 9:31 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 22, 2013 at 5:28 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Creed of Heresy - October 24, 2013 at 6:32 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Angrboda - October 24, 2013 at 11:29 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Creed of Heresy - October 24, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 27, 2013 at 4:34 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by paulpablo - October 27, 2013 at 6:36 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 22, 2013 at 5:30 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Mister Agenda - October 22, 2013 at 1:03 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 22, 2013 at 3:16 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Mister Agenda - October 22, 2013 at 4:22 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 23, 2013 at 5:28 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Chas - October 23, 2013 at 3:54 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Aractus - October 24, 2013 at 3:01 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Chas - October 24, 2013 at 1:05 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Fidel_Castronaut - October 22, 2013 at 3:24 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 22, 2013 at 3:39 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Fidel_Castronaut - October 23, 2013 at 2:06 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Doubting Thomas - October 22, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by StuW - October 22, 2013 at 5:03 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Dragonetti - October 23, 2013 at 6:00 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by LastPoet - October 23, 2013 at 7:47 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Faith No More - October 24, 2013 at 11:48 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Aractus - October 25, 2013 at 4:52 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Chas - October 25, 2013 at 10:37 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Creed of Heresy - October 26, 2013 at 2:40 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 26, 2013 at 10:31 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 26, 2013 at 10:32 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 26, 2013 at 10:33 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 26, 2013 at 10:34 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 26, 2013 at 10:35 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 26, 2013 at 10:38 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Chas - October 27, 2013 at 8:28 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 29, 2013 at 1:21 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Chas - October 29, 2013 at 8:49 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 29, 2013 at 1:25 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by paulpablo - October 29, 2013 at 5:01 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Brian37 - October 29, 2013 at 7:59 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Angrboda - December 10, 2013 at 2:28 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 29, 2013 at 3:58 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Captain Colostomy - October 29, 2013 at 8:18 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Dragonetti - October 29, 2013 at 8:38 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Aractus - October 30, 2013 at 3:54 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Chas - October 30, 2013 at 10:42 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by DLJ - October 30, 2013 at 11:38 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Chas - November 4, 2013 at 10:51 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by DLJ - November 5, 2013 at 5:20 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Kyiv is Calling onlinebiker 0 269 March 20, 2022 at 10:47 pm
Last Post: onlinebiker
  Political ads calling people "socialists" Foxaèr 5 577 October 10, 2018 at 11:47 am
Last Post: Minimalist
  What is it with Trump supporters not wanting to discuss policy without name calling NuclearEnergy 73 13927 December 28, 2016 at 8:00 pm
Last Post: Amarok
  Why is Hilary calling the FBI director Coney a liar? ReptilianPeon 21 2035 August 3, 2016 at 4:57 am
Last Post: Aractus
  'Stop Calling us Nazis' cratehorus 18 5826 September 15, 2012 at 9:14 am
Last Post: Puddleglum
  Priest Speaks Out and Gets Kicked Out Erinome 24 9377 December 20, 2011 at 9:35 am
Last Post: Jaysyn
  Calling all Democrats... The Prophet 28 5844 November 30, 2011 at 10:04 am
Last Post: 5thHorseman
  Uproar over Jerry Brown's aides calling Meg Whitman a "whore" Autumnlicious 0 3137 October 15, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Last Post: Autumnlicious



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)