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Religious moderates enable religious extremists
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RE: Religious moderates enable religious extremists
(October 20, 2013 at 7:05 am)Brian37 Wrote: I am catching shit at another website from fellow atheists for making this same point. Christopher Hitchens called religion poison, and I agree. Sam Harris made the same point that liberals and moderates give cover to fundies by ignoring the dark side of religion. Dakwins has also called teaching kids religion as an absolute a form of child abuse.

But I get accused of seeking attention, yet they are the ones who are famous authors saying the same thing I am agreeing with. And the other stupid thing they are accusing me of is being dogmatic, even after I tell them this is NOT about human rights in a legal sense. If someone wants to go around claiming they are Napoleon, I will defend their right to claim it, but that does not mean the claim itself deserves taboo status.

I guess you have to be a certain class to have a voice.

Which site?
We can come over there and sort them out.

The problem with the Sam Harris stance is that, although correct in the basis that the existence of 'passive believers' makes it seem ok to continue the myth (and by extension, the child abuse and the invisibility of how the poison impacts others), it is not practical or even ethical for moderates to be accountable or responsible for the actions of the extremists.

Example: I hold it self evident that women and men should have equal rights. I think this is the moderate view.
Therefore, I do not agree with the extreme stance of muslims and indeed all the holy texts seem to support this, that women are the property of men.
On the other extreme, I do not agree with the Feminista view that all men are rapists and should be castrated at birth (or some such).

I do not in any way feel accountable or responsible for the actions of these extremists.

I will voice my opinion as indeed we hear the moderate muslims etc. voicing their sincere distress over e.g. 9/11.

Interestingly enough, the extremists are the movers and shakers in this world.

Without them, societies would stagnate. E.g. That damned Elvis Presley and his extreme music!!!
Disgusting!

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the conditions that surround him... The unreasonable man adapts surrounding conditions to himself... All progress depends on the unreasonable man."
-- George Bernard Shaw.
The PURPOSE of life is to replicate our DNA ................. (from Darwin)
The MEANING of life is the experience of living ... (from Frank Herbert)
The VALUE of life is the legacy we leave behind ..... (from observation)
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RE: Religious moderates enable religious extremists - by DLJ - October 18, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: Religious moderates enable religious extremists - by DLJ - October 18, 2013 at 11:11 am
RE: Religious moderates enable religious extremists - by DLJ - October 19, 2013 at 7:12 am
RE: Religious moderates enable religious extremists - by DLJ - October 18, 2013 at 7:17 pm
RE: Religious moderates enable religious extremists - by DLJ - October 19, 2013 at 12:07 pm
RE: Religious moderates enable religious extremists - by DLJ - October 19, 2013 at 12:12 pm
RE: Religious moderates enable religious extremists - by DLJ - October 19, 2013 at 12:23 pm
RE: Religious moderates enable religious extremists - by DLJ - October 19, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RE: Religious moderates enable religious extremists - by DLJ - October 20, 2013 at 7:32 am
RE: Religious moderates enable religious extremists - by DLJ - October 20, 2013 at 7:48 am
RE: Religious moderates enable religious extremists - by DLJ - October 20, 2013 at 12:06 pm
RE: Religious moderates enable religious extremists - by DLJ - October 20, 2013 at 11:22 am
RE: Religious moderates enable religious extremists - by DLJ - October 20, 2013 at 1:42 pm

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