Strong Atheism starts from faith

[Edwardo Piet]

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Asking for evidence of something that requires that there be no evidence seems like utter stupidity to me. Please explain to me how it isn't.

What's really fucking retarded is the fact you continuously contradict yourself on this matter.

Sometimes it's "No evidence" other times it's "no empirical" or "no corroborative" evidence.

Do you have evidence OF ANY KIND or not?

Because if you don't then you're believing on no rational logical or reasonable reason whatsoever, and that's as delusional a basis of belief of any kind as it completely, totally, utterly and absolutely fucking gets.

EvF

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Use your brain for a change Evie instead of your typing fingers... you may eventually work something out.

I'll treat the ignorance from you (by not dealing with my - I think completely valid - points) as,

1. Failing to admit that you contradict yourself in that you are inconsistent in your claim that there can be 'no evidence'
2. Because you are inconsistent you regularly go about claiming there can be 'no evidence' on one hand and yet feel free to give what you think of as 'reasoning' or arguments for God on the other hand (a contradiction because if they were valid they would be evidence).
3. You have once again failed to explain why you shift between 'no evidence' and 'no empirical evidence' (which is it?).
4. Importantly, you have failed to respond when I asked you: Do you have evidence OF ANY KIND or not?
5. You have failed to explain how Faith can ever trump evidence when it comes to rationality, especially considering you cherry-pick out having faith only for things you wish to have faith on (e.g. "God"), when this would require evidence in order for you to have any valid reason for it to be a valid exception, right?

So: Again, Do you have evidence OF ANY KIND or not? And please do explain why you cherry pick out having Faith in God in particular, and how you justify having faith at all AND cherry picking what you have faith in.

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I've been around this tree with Evie quite a lot of times VOID... that he can't muster up a grain of intelligence to apply to what we've said to each other is down to him. I'm doing him no favours thinking for him.. he has to start thinking for himself at some point. I'm not going to explain the difference to him yet again when he didn't fucking get it the last 50 times I took the trouble to tell him. There's stubborn then there's ignorance.

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You see I disagree here. The way I see it, you never give me a straight answer, or if you do - you contradict yourself many times later making me have to ask again to try and find out what you really think.

[...]Back to the actual question... how do you conclude that there should be evidence for God?

There is no 'should' because the decisions we make are based on our own values and I know of no evidence of any objective values. It's simply that, at least in my opinion, it is pretty much the definition of irrationality to believe something without evidence, and especially when you're making that thing you believe without evidence an exception (cherry picking it out) - without any valid evidence to do that. The way a rational belief is decided upon is by evidence in any other case so why do you make an exception with God, etc? Without evidence for a reason to make it an exception, isn't it insane to make it an exception? Why ever make an exception when evidence is how a belief is to be rational?

[...] It was an appropriate answer. Given a statement I don't agree with, how do i answer one way or another? I can't. VOID is avoiding the question at hand.

It wasn't a statement... it was a question. You've done this before with me, I've asked a question and you've replied saying it's a baseless assertion or whatever. Not quite the same is when I say you make a baseless assertion when you actually make an assertion, a proper statement, without backing it up at all in anyway - I don't do it when you ask questions.

Are you doing this on purpose? Are you deliberately being awkward? (Once again, don't be blind to question marks, I'm asking you not telling you).

EvF