(October 25, 2013 at 12:29 pm)John V Wrote:(October 25, 2013 at 12:22 pm)Esquilax Wrote: The work is important, which is why I'm so irked at an organization turning away folks who could help with that over petty ideological differences and some vague notion that you're being "targeted" by atheists, according to the woman in charge.And I think you're unreasonably ignoring the fact that the atheist organization purposely escalated the situation.
Except the atheist group also accepts help from christian groups, didn't go around badmouthing all christians based upon the actions of this one woman, and didn't spew a bunch of ignorant, baffling drivel about how christians are uncharitable and working for the devil afterward.
Understand, I'm not mad that this is a charity. I'm mad that this particular charity bit off its own nose to spite its face, and then had the gall to turn around and point the finger at the very group that was trying to help them in the first place.
This is an issue about this one shitheaded woman, not the entire organization. It might also be about the members of it that didn't see fit to call their leader on her egregious bullshit, but that's neither here nor there, and don't you dare try to characterize this as us atheists beating down on the concept of charity, John.
It could have simply gone like this:
Atheist leader: "Hey, I called the Christian soup kitchen and they said they didn't want help from our group. Let's just volunteer there as individuals, or volunteer somewhere else for that day."
(October 25, 2013 at 12:28 pm)Esquilax Wrote: I find it amusing that the christian is willing to go to lies of omission in order to prove his point.What lies of omission? Unlike you I've been striving to speak factually on the topic. I even noted a point that I discovered which I knew would hurt my position. That's going above and beyond typical standards.
Imagine if blacks said, "Hey lets not sit in at that lunch counter, lets not make waves, lets go find a black lunch counter".