RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance.
October 31, 2013 at 4:23 pm
(This post was last modified: October 31, 2013 at 4:32 pm by Cheerful Charlie.)
(October 30, 2013 at 9:35 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote:(October 30, 2013 at 7:59 pm)Cheerful Charlie Wrote: Sorry,but strong atheism proves God cannot exist. Too many problems. God's omniscience vs free will. Problem of evil. And more. Theism is simply intellectually disreputable. God is a failed hypothesis. Ignorance of the facts is why people remain religious believers.
Knowledgeable strong atheists have conviction. When it comes to religion, we are all born ignorant. But strong atheists can learn God is a failed hypothesis and no longer be called ignorant.
Hey, just about every claim you have made against religion in this post is logically invalid and/or flat-out false.
Just sayin'
Not true. See my post Strong Atheism - Omnigenesis for a very good reason not to believe in the Omni-everything God of Christianity, Islam et al.
If God is creator of all, and is omniscient, knowing the future in full detail, then from any starting state of creation God chooses, the future will unfold in a strictly determinate fashion. Free will for sentient beings in such a Universe is impossible. So all moral evil in this Universe is willfully and purposefully created by God. So God is not as DEFINED, good, all good, good by nature.
Your God as defined by supposed relations from God is logically self contradictory and impossible.
There. Now you know. There are other very good strong atheism disproofs which in further days ahead I will be posting.
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(October 31, 2013 at 1:42 am)whateverist Wrote:(October 30, 2013 at 7:59 pm)Cheerful Charlie Wrote: Sorry,but strong atheism proves God cannot exist. Too many problems. God's omniscience vs free will. Problem of evil. And more. Theism is simply intellectually disreputable. God is a failed hypothesis. Ignorance of the facts is why people remain religious believers.
Knowledgeable strong atheists have conviction. When it comes to religion, we are all born ignorant. But strong atheists can learn God is a failed hypothesis and no longer be called ignorant.
You make me cringe. It is this sort of drivel that invites all the theist charges that atheism too is a religion. But you, Cheerful Charlie, are about as religious in your conviction as many fundamentalists. Like them you place a high value on the maintenance of certainty. I suspect you just need seasoning.
Is atheism a religion? Very well, then, it's the only true religion. With strong religion, certainty as regards the omni-everything gods of Christianity,Islam et al is pretty easy.
Actually, I am not religious, you like word games it seems. If I am sure about anything based on logic, I am religious? No, I am simply sure based on evidence about my lack of religion. Now, how much evidence do you want that the God of Christianity and Islam are logically impossible? See my answer to Vinny above, omnigenesis.
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Cheerful Charlie
If I saw a man beating a tied up dog, I couldn't prove it was wrong, but I'd know it was wrong.
- Attributed to Mark Twain
If I saw a man beating a tied up dog, I couldn't prove it was wrong, but I'd know it was wrong.
- Attributed to Mark Twain
