Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED

[Brian37]

If you don't vote eventually you get to the point of wanting to kill. I'd rather vote than kill.

Slippery Slope. You should know better.

What slippery slope? I never said voting should be the only tool, Iran has ellections too, so does China, but I would not want to live in either.

Protection of dissent is part of any secular system, that includes courts overriding majorities when their votes step on the rights of minorities.

I don't know about the way laws work in other countries, but I do know that our Supreme Court has overturned the voters as well in order to protect that minority from the majority.

It may take a couple more decades, but because of laws being upheld for gay marriage, eventually all the bigoted voters will lose and gay marriage will be in every state.

Voting is one aspect of civil society, but it too needs checks on it as well.

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No shit, if change was impossible because those with money have power above you , nothing in human history would have changed.

As long as you do what you can, and the more like minded people do the same, "small" adds up.

That is exactly what I'm advocating. But starting your own party isn't gonna do shit by itself. It's opinions that you have to change and if you can do that, you don't need a new political party

Sorry, but that is a utopia. People form groups, and those groups advocate all sorts of ideas, that is called politics, it happens in open societies and dictatorships.

Government is the only way we can make laws and without voting(which should not be without oversight itself) without government you simply have a power vacuum which will get filled with something, and it is not a given that if you do this, that what comes about will favor you.

Jefferson learned that the hard way supporting the French Revolution which ended up with Napoleon. I am sure Nappy was kind to his supporters but step out of line, wasn't so fun.

"Anarchy" is a utopia, it will never happen because people have different motives, and combine those motives with money and no government, you are setting up a place for a dictatorship run by one party or one person, or a warlord environment like Somalia. Neither are appealing to me.

Since there are selfish greedy people who lust for power and always will be, be it greed for political power, or greed for money, I will not trust my species to simply do the right thing. We are capable of compassion, but we are also capable of cruelty. Which is why our ideas as a species are never good postulated as simple solutions. We are too complex as a species to make that work.