Christians forgive themselves

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....and if you bother to keep reading she also says none of which was possible with out the forgiveness Christ offered her. Which is not an example of a forgiveness that originates from with in ones self. That why I asked if you had any example of the self forgiveness you identified, since your fb example was not an example of the self forgiveness you described, because again the girl accredited God for the forgiveness she allowed herself to have.

So I ask again what else you got?

I would ask if you have any ability to put yourself into the shoes of another, but... I already know that you don't. So, I'm going to break it down for you.

Since you can't demonstrate the truth of any of this mystical shit outside of your own personal experience, then to an outsider looking in, every time Jesus forgives you, the only thing we see is you forgiving yourself. Consider this example: I wrong you, but then I tell you that it's okay, I don't have to feel bad about it, because Shmoopti, the magic corndog, has forgiven me. Would you find that compelling? Would you even consider that a thing?

Or would you, much more likely, take this as a lazy attempt on my part to abdicate responsibility and guilt for my own actions?

There's no difference between Shmoopti and Jesus, from an external point of view. They're both unevidenced, unverifiable concepts that neither of us can justify using for anything; the difference is that we both know Shmoopti is silly, yet you won't extend that same courtesy to your own magic man.

Hell, even within the bounds of your own theology, Jesus doesn't have direct communication with you, does he? If not, you've got no way of knowing whether he has forgiven you or not, except through some broad, baseless claims made by fallible humans in a couple of old books.