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Christians forgive themselves
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RE: Christians forgive themselves
(November 6, 2013 at 10:16 am)Drich Wrote: Big Grin You said 'morality.' In Hitler's germany it was considered 'immoral' to allow a jew to escape the 'final solution.' In Osama's community it was a 'moral' obligation to fly planes into buildings. When 'morality' is tied to pop culture, 'morality' is anything but righteous, and the kicker? The people who are tied to this brand of 'morality' are too close to it to ever see the evil in their own hearts.

I see. And the fact that others might not agree with this moral relativist idea, and aren't obligated to accept your- diversionary tactic- vision here, never crossed your mind, did it?

Quote:Indeed. When one sins God is the one being 'wronged.' Therefore you owe a debt to God.

Except that, by definition, to be wronged requires actual, demonstrable harm. Other than being a prissy bitch with his nose in other people's business, how is god actually wronged by sin?

Quote:Just like if I invited you over to my house and you poop on the nice new carpet in my living room floor, you owe me a debt. This world, this life, belongs to God in the same way. Therefore the debt you owe belongs to God and as such He can determine how to collect.

And how can you reconcile "god owns life and everyone in it," with "we have free will, which is why god doesn't intervene?" If he owns this shit then he's also got a responsibility to ensure the safety of the people in his care, you can't have it both ways.

Quote:Which is a bad thing? how so? if your 'morality' is based on popular belief, and no real standards of any kind then how can you possiable know if what you are doing is truly 'moral'/Righteous?

You know, no matter how many times you say it, you're not actually empowered to magically change our beliefs on morality to "whatever society says," through sheer repetition. Saying the same wrong thing over and over doesn't make us wrong too; it just makes you wrong repeatedly.
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Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 2, 2013 at 10:01 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Marvin - November 2, 2013 at 10:16 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Captain Colostomy - November 2, 2013 at 11:52 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Simon Moon - November 2, 2013 at 12:16 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Godschild - November 2, 2013 at 3:11 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 2, 2013 at 3:21 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ThomM - November 5, 2013 at 3:37 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Drich - November 6, 2013 at 10:16 am
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 6, 2013 at 6:51 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Lemonvariable72 - November 2, 2013 at 12:21 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 2, 2013 at 1:05 pm
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 7, 2013 at 8:36 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Doubting Thomas - November 2, 2013 at 7:11 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Drich - November 2, 2013 at 11:00 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 3, 2013 at 12:02 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Drich - November 3, 2013 at 12:50 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 3, 2013 at 12:58 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Drich - November 3, 2013 at 2:36 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Silver - November 3, 2013 at 2:41 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 4, 2013 at 4:14 am
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Drich - November 5, 2013 at 11:05 am
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Godschild - November 4, 2013 at 12:13 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 4, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 4, 2013 at 3:50 pm
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 6, 2013 at 8:02 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 6, 2013 at 10:18 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 6, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 6, 2013 at 7:01 pm
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 7, 2013 at 7:58 am
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 4, 2013 at 3:59 pm
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 4, 2013 at 6:41 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 4, 2013 at 6:45 pm
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ayen - November 5, 2013 at 12:55 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Lemonvariable72 - November 5, 2013 at 1:03 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 5, 2013 at 11:46 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 5, 2013 at 1:33 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Tonus - November 6, 2013 at 12:24 pm
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 5, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ayen - November 5, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 5, 2013 at 4:12 pm
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 6, 2013 at 1:12 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 6, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 6, 2013 at 1:23 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 6, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 6, 2013 at 7:58 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Lemonvariable72 - November 6, 2013 at 8:02 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 7, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 7, 2013 at 7:24 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 7, 2013 at 7:32 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 7, 2013 at 9:15 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Bob Kelso - November 7, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 7, 2013 at 9:54 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 7, 2013 at 10:07 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Tonus - November 6, 2013 at 1:53 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 6, 2013 at 7:29 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Mystical - November 6, 2013 at 8:31 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 6, 2013 at 8:01 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Bob Kelso - November 6, 2013 at 10:37 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 7, 2013 at 9:33 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 10:56 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 8, 2013 at 11:01 am
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 8, 2013 at 12:08 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 1:17 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Bob Kelso - November 8, 2013 at 1:27 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 1:37 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 8, 2013 at 1:41 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 8, 2013 at 1:57 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 3:45 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 8, 2013 at 4:04 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 4:30 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 8, 2013 at 4:45 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Bob Kelso - November 8, 2013 at 1:47 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 8, 2013 at 5:23 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 8, 2013 at 6:00 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by The Valkyrie - November 9, 2013 at 5:37 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Anomalocaris - November 8, 2013 at 7:17 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 9, 2013 at 5:34 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Walking Void - November 9, 2013 at 4:56 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 6:31 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 9, 2013 at 7:37 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 9, 2013 at 5:26 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 8, 2013 at 11:28 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Optimistic Mysanthrope - November 8, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ayen - November 8, 2013 at 1:41 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 8, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 4:47 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 9, 2013 at 5:17 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Anomalocaris - November 8, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 9, 2013 at 2:55 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 9, 2013 at 9:34 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 9, 2013 at 5:29 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 9, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 9, 2013 at 5:42 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 6:16 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 9, 2013 at 6:20 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 6:24 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 9, 2013 at 6:26 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 9, 2013 at 7:22 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 7:26 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 9, 2013 at 7:41 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 7:58 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 9, 2013 at 9:52 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 10:58 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 10, 2013 at 12:10 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 9, 2013 at 10:05 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 9, 2013 at 7:05 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 7:18 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 10, 2013 at 1:27 am

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