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Christians forgive themselves
RE: Christians forgive themselves
(November 9, 2013 at 6:16 pm)ronedee Wrote: There is all kinds of persecution. I don't see any specifics to the definitions:

per·se·cu·tion
ˌpərsəˈkyo͞oSHən/
noun
noun: persecution; plural noun: persecutions


1.
hostility and ill-treatment, esp. because of race or political or religious beliefs.
"her family fled religious persecution"
synonyms: oppression, victimization, maltreatment, ill-treatment, mistreatment, abuse, ill-usage, discrimination, tyranny; More

Here's the thing, though. The really important thing, that so often gets missed with all these shrill cries of persecution: the hostility isn't coming because of your religious beliefs. You're mistaking the content of the conversation with the reason behind its tone.

The fact is, every last one of us can demonstrably show christians that we talk to quite civilly, who are our friends, our family, people whom we, somehow, manage to treat perfectly neutrally despite our, apparently, persecution of christians. So what's clear, here, is that it isn't your religious beliefs that are causing the reactions here. We can look at it like an experiment; we have evidence that "religious belief," is not the variable which is causing hostility here, because it can't be applied consistently.

Therefore, it must be something else. I'll let the people actually engaged in this tell you what that is.
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Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 2, 2013 at 10:01 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Marvin - November 2, 2013 at 10:16 am
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Simon Moon - November 2, 2013 at 12:16 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Godschild - November 2, 2013 at 3:11 pm
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ThomM - November 5, 2013 at 3:37 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Drich - November 6, 2013 at 10:16 am
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 6, 2013 at 6:51 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Lemonvariable72 - November 2, 2013 at 12:21 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 2, 2013 at 1:05 pm
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Mystical - November 2, 2013 at 3:20 pm
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Anomalocaris - November 7, 2013 at 12:07 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 7, 2013 at 8:36 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Doubting Thomas - November 2, 2013 at 7:11 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Drich - November 2, 2013 at 11:00 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 3, 2013 at 12:02 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Drich - November 3, 2013 at 12:50 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 3, 2013 at 12:58 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Drich - November 3, 2013 at 2:36 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Silver - November 3, 2013 at 2:41 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 4, 2013 at 4:14 am
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Drich - November 5, 2013 at 11:05 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 3, 2013 at 2:42 am
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Bob Kelso - November 4, 2013 at 3:53 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Doubting Thomas - November 4, 2013 at 12:48 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ayen - November 4, 2013 at 4:36 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 4, 2013 at 4:42 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Godschild - November 4, 2013 at 12:13 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 4, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 4, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 4, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Simon Moon - November 5, 2013 at 3:19 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Godschild - November 5, 2013 at 5:56 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 6, 2013 at 8:02 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 6, 2013 at 10:18 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 6, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 6, 2013 at 7:01 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 6, 2013 at 7:06 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 6, 2013 at 7:14 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 6, 2013 at 7:31 pm
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Jackalope - November 8, 2013 at 6:33 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 7, 2013 at 7:58 am
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RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Godschild - November 6, 2013 at 1:10 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 4, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Doubting Thomas - November 4, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 4, 2013 at 6:41 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 4, 2013 at 6:45 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 4, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ayen - November 5, 2013 at 12:55 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Lemonvariable72 - November 5, 2013 at 1:03 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 5, 2013 at 11:46 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 5, 2013 at 1:33 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Tonus - November 6, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 5, 2013 at 5:27 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 5, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ayen - November 5, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 5, 2013 at 4:12 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 5, 2013 at 11:28 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 6, 2013 at 1:12 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 6, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 6, 2013 at 1:23 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 6, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 6, 2013 at 7:58 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Lemonvariable72 - November 6, 2013 at 8:02 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 7, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 7, 2013 at 7:24 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 7, 2013 at 7:32 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 7, 2013 at 9:15 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Bob Kelso - November 7, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 7, 2013 at 9:54 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 7, 2013 at 10:07 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Tonus - November 6, 2013 at 1:53 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 6, 2013 at 7:29 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Mystical - November 6, 2013 at 8:31 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 6, 2013 at 8:01 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Bob Kelso - November 6, 2013 at 10:37 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 7, 2013 at 9:33 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 10:56 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 8, 2013 at 11:01 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 11:12 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 8, 2013 at 12:08 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 1:17 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Bob Kelso - November 8, 2013 at 1:27 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 1:37 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 8, 2013 at 1:41 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 8, 2013 at 1:57 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 3:45 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 8, 2013 at 4:04 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 4:30 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 8, 2013 at 4:45 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Bob Kelso - November 8, 2013 at 1:47 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 8, 2013 at 5:23 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 8, 2013 at 6:00 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by The Valkyrie - November 9, 2013 at 5:37 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Anomalocaris - November 8, 2013 at 7:17 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 9, 2013 at 5:34 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Walking Void - November 9, 2013 at 4:56 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 6:31 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 9, 2013 at 7:37 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 9, 2013 at 5:26 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 8, 2013 at 11:28 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Optimistic Mysanthrope - November 8, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ayen - November 8, 2013 at 1:41 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 8, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 4:47 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 9, 2013 at 5:17 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Anomalocaris - November 8, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 9, 2013 at 2:55 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 9, 2013 at 9:34 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 9, 2013 at 5:29 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 9, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 9, 2013 at 5:42 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 6:16 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 9, 2013 at 6:20 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 6:24 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 9, 2013 at 6:26 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 9, 2013 at 7:22 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 7:26 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 9, 2013 at 7:41 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 7:58 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 9, 2013 at 9:52 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 10:58 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 10, 2013 at 12:10 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 9, 2013 at 10:05 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 9, 2013 at 7:05 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 7:18 pm
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